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Japanese coins (plus some random stuff) from under a tree
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Really.  No, really.  My wife reminded of these little gems. I found them under a stump that I dug out of my back yard. Have no idea how they came to be there, but I'm glad I didn't just grind the stump out.    There were also two pretty cool plastic toy coins as well, but I'm pretty sure those are just fun to look at. 

I think at least one is a Japanese coin, but I don't know for sure.   Any help on identification and (very rough) valuation would be awesome!

 

Coin 1

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Coin 2 (4 Mon?)

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They're both Japanese. Neither is worth much, but they are interesting. Second is a C#8, I think, 4 mon, circa 1863-67. High book might be $2. First is (I think) mid-1700s, 1 mon, C#1.something, and most likely not worth a lot either. However, there are a few variants that are worth a bit more.

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13 hours ago, Mohawk said:

Dang Thompson....cool find for being under a stump!  And, speaking of which, you've stumped me with those......I do not know anything about East Asian cast coinage other than recognizing it as East Asian cast coinage.  If I were to dig up a stump, I'd probably find something putrid that a raven or a crow stashed there and ended up not needing.  And I'd probably manage to hit myself in the face with said putrid thing.  I love birds, but they don't always love me back.

Oh, they love you plenty.  They just have peculiar ways of showing it.  I've been "blessed" with a gift from above on more than one occasion... :D

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11 hours ago, JKK said:

They're both Japanese. Neither is worth much, but they are interesting. Second is a C#8, I think, 4 mon, circa 1863-67. High book might be $2. First is (I think) mid-1700s, 1 mon, C#1.something, and most likely not worth a lot either. However, there are a few variants that are worth a bit more.

Cool.  Somehow I figured they'd be of limited value but definitely interesting especially given where I found them... With the info you've given, I should be able to find out more and see some good examples. 

One question - the C#'s you give - what is that referring to? 

 

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14 minutes ago, Thompson2 said:

Cool.  Somehow I figured they'd be of limited value but definitely interesting especially given where I found them... With the info you've given, I should be able to find out more and see some good examples. 

One question - the C#'s you give - what is that referring to? 

 

Those are their numeric identifiers in my copies of the Krause catalogs.

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3 hours ago, Thompson2 said:

 

Oh, they love you plenty.  They just have peculiar ways of showing it.  I've been "blessed" with a gift from above on more than one occasion... :D

Believe it or not, I haven't been bombed from above yet.....at least in the typical way.  Birds like to do weird things to me...like last late summer and early fall.  We have American Kestrels in the cemetery across from our house and for about two or three weeks, they were killing frogs and eating them in our driveway.  So we'd come out to go on our evening walks, and we'd greeted by the remains of at least one poor frog that the Kestrels mangled to get the tasty bits.   As I also love frogs, I wasn't too thrilled with these little "presents".  Since I know the Kestrels have to eat and I love them too, I'm not bothered when they do this with something that isn't cute, like a squirrel, a rat, a mouse or a chipmunk (I know, I'm a b*stard to the rodents).  But the frogs are cute!  Thankfully, our resident Red-Tailed Hawk pair, who nest and live in the woods behind our neighbor's house, returned back from a little soujourn after a few weeks (Red-Tailed Hawks sometimes take little "vacations") and they strongly encouraged the Kestrels to take their feeding activities back into the cemetery.  As the little stream where the frogs live is also part of the Red-Tail turf, it was also back to rodents for the Kestrels.  Their little excursion into Cajun cuisine was over. 

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4 hours ago, Thompson2 said:

One question - the C#'s you give - what is that referring to? 

The C numbers are Craig numbers originally assigned assigned by William Craig in his book Coins of the World 1750 - 1850.  When the Krause book Standard Catalog of World Coins came out the early coins were labeled with the C numbers.  Most of them were later renumbered with the KM numbers but some of the early asian coins still use the old C #'s..

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I was going through old posts and thought I'd add to this one with some better pics (and ID's) and some of the other coins I found under the same stump... 

1 Mon, no mint mark, 24.7mm diameter most likely C#1.1, 1.  Haven't been able to get a firm grip on date, but somewhere between 1636-1870 (more likely 1740 or later)

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4 Mon C# 6b, 26.6mm 1863-1867

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And then  the play coins... all of these were found under the same tree as the Mon coins.. no idea how they got there or why they were there... but they're in my stash because of the story...certainly not because they're worth anything.  :)

25C play coin, 25mm diameter

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5C Play coin, 21.4mm diameter

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And lastly, this super awesome 1936 (probably) wheat.  Based on the other posts I'm seeing these days, it's probably the very rare DDO lol (no... I'm not serious...  there are some major trolls floating around right now).

Again, not worth anything, except the interesting backstory.

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Maybe you could suggest it is a (really badly) impaired 1936 proof. It has nice wheat lines under the massive corrosion. 

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3 hours ago, VKurtB said:

Maybe you could suggest it is a (really badly) impaired 1936 proof. It has nice wheat lines under the massive corrosion. 

I think you might be right!  I'm 100% sure I could get the now-banned troll to back that up!  :roflmao:

 

Good to "see" you again, sir!

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