gold coin?

[whoopig01]

anybody know what this is?

 

[supertooth]

My guess----Fake Calif. Fractional Gold?? Piece Bob [supertooth]

[TomB]

I agree with supertooth as I believe the real California fractional gold pieces had a denomination written on them. Also common on these reproduction tokens is the California bear motif, which did not appear, or did not appear frequently, on the true fractional gold pieces.

[Calypso]

hi,

 

how interesting, her facial features do resemble early fractional gold, however based on the headdress and wreath I'd say most likely a crudely copied type 2 gold dollar from the period dated 1854-56. The Indian head obverses for California gold were quite different and the reverses had wreaths of laurel. See my attachment for an octagonal version.

 

Calypso

[michael]

unfortunately and after the fact

 

 

fake ugly butt ugly "gold" token

 

tourist souvnier

[Gold Guy-migration]

I agree that its a fake. here's some pictures I took of a damaged fractional.

 

You'll notice many similarities. Neat piece, but more than likely a tourist item.

 

 

Btw, I am new here on your boards. Can't wait to get some questions answered. Ill write an official intorduction post later. Can't wait to get started.

[cpm9ball]

I agree that its a fake. here's some pictures I took of a damaged fractional.

 

You'll notice many similarities. Neat piece, but more than likely a tourist item.

 

 

Btw, I am new here on your boards. Can't wait to get some questions answered. Ill write an official intorduction post later. Can't wait to get started.

 

Welcome to the Boards, "GG" McKelvy! What does the "A" stand for..........Andrew? Amos? Arnold? Adam? Armand? Alphonse?

 

When you post your intro, be sure to tell us about your interests, (any) areas of expertise, goals, ambitions, bank account #'s, credit card #'s, ATM PIN's, etc. Don't be afraid to ask questions even if you may think them dumb. They'll never be as dumb as some of mine. You'll soon learn that there are a few fruitcakes around these boards. One in particular has the username, cpm9ball. Watch out for him!

 

We're all here to share our love for coins.

 

C H R I S

[Gold Guy-migration]

thanks. the a stands for Alex.

 

My intro is located at the link below

http://boards.collectors-society.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=814469&an=0&page=0#814469

[Calypso]

Hello Gold Guy

 

the picture you posted is a type 1 Liberty Head US gold dollar, not California fractional. The only similarity is the obverse stars. I posted a picture of an actual Cal Fractional gold Indian Head dollar in the attachment to my previous post.

 

The above crude copy is also not based on California fractional gold, it's devices including the short ostrich plume headdress at an angle and the reverse agricultural wreath are characteristic of the type 2 US gold dollar. To my knowledge the agricultural wreath was never used on California fractional gold, only various styles of laurel wreaths were used.

 

California fractional gold dollars and US gold dollars are not the same thing, very very different. One was minted by the US government the other by private local firms.

 

I hope this help clarify things a bit

 

Calypso

Collector of gold types from ancient to modern

[Gold Guy-migration]

Yeah, I know about the Us one that I pictured, it looks though as if ithe coin in question is a copy of a mix of the two.

 

I suppose that doesn't mean that its not real gold though, but I would very likely doubt it to be gold.

[BillJones]

The first coin is a crude copy of a California One Dollar "fractional" gold coin.

 

I believe that the second coin is a genuine U.S. 1853 Type I, One Dollar gold coin that was once used as jewelry. As such it does not have a great deal of value, perhaps $25 or $35 if you can find a collector who can only afford a "filler."

 

Check out the first coin in my gold type set to see how one of these coins looks in Mint State coindition. It's the gold dollar listed as the type 1849 - 54.

 

Bill Jones' Gold Type set, 1834 - 1933

[BankNote1]

Bill That is one darned fine set of coins! I really enjoyed looking at it! I do agree with you that type 3 $1 gold is undergraded!!!

[BillJones]

Thank you kindly, Banknote1.

[Gold Guy-migration]

hehe, I have 3 of that series that were in a different book, just found that damaged one first.