1798/97 Dime in Heritage auction catalog - I did not know this!

[James_OldeTowne]

It's on page 142 of the printed catalog: "Scot's reverse was slightly modified until the series ended in 1807, but in general it was popular enough with both the public and Mint officials that the same dies were often used to strike quarter eagles."

 

Did you guys know this? I did not! I don't know exactly why, but I find it extremely awesome that the reverse dies of the dime was used to strike gold coins as well!

 

Gosh, how I love learning new things in numismatics - can't wait to see this coin in person!

 

James

[gmarguli]

I didn't know this, but I do know there are several 17th century German coins which were struck using the same die. For example, they'd use the 1/4 Taler die to strike silver planchets and then they'd use the same die to strike gold planchets which may have had a value of 2 Talers.

[McKinley-migration]

19mm

20mm?

[EZ_E]

It's on page 142 of the printed catalog: "Scot's reverse was slightly modified until the series ended in 1807, but in general it was popular enough with both the public and Mint officials that the same dies were often used to strike quarter eagles."

 

Did you guys know this? I did not! I don't know exactly why, but I find it extremely awesome that the reverse dies of the dime was used to strike gold coins as well!

 

Gosh, how I love learning new things in numismatics - can't wait to see this coin in person!

 

James

 

James, James, James... the contest for the most educational poster is over already!

 

Another great post from you. Thanks for sharing.

[EVillageProwler]

Yes, I knew this. I'm not trying to brag about my knowledge, but rather to point people at the copious info contained in the JR book on early/bust dimes.

 

EVP

[EZ_E]

Hello, EVP! Nice to see a couple of posts from ya.

 

I believe that an article from one of the numismatic publications hinted on this within the past year because it is familiar knowledge to me, too.

[EVillageProwler]

Hi Victor,

 

I believe I also found the same info in the publications from B+M/ANR. Actually, I think I read this in an article that Borckardt wrote when he was with the old B+M.

 

As for my not posting much anymore, well, it's a matter of time...

 

EVP

[James_OldeTowne]

Sadly, I do have the JR book. I'd better read more carefully from now on!

 

Thanks for the input!

 

James

[McKinley-migration]

why are the sizes different though

[James_OldeTowne]

Both the dimes and the gold coins - like all coins of the era - were struck without a collar, so the diameter of the planchet could vary considerably, and still be used. I'm guessing the minimum practical thickness was used for striking both coins, and that the thickness, combined with the specified weight, would have determined the diameter of the planchets.

 

James

[McKinley-migration]

the letters go down farther towards the bottom on the gold...

[AlixTCat]

The dies are similar, but not the same. There are several differences in the coins posted here.

[spy88]

Although the designs are similar, there are definitely many differences between the two. The star locations, the distance from the wingtip where STATES starts, the shield points, lines and the eagle tail, the eagles head and breast feathers, the arrows and the branch, etc. All different.

 

As for the difference in size, might it be that as gold is a softer metal, it "spread" further when struck?