1934-D Buffalo question.

[BankNote1]

Does any grading service recognize the 1934-D small "D" variety? It isn't listed anywhere (that I can find) so I guess NGC doesn't recognize it but maybe ANACS?

I wouldn't think this would add to the value of the coin?

[Hoot]

For the 1934-D, the small D is, indeed, the uncommon variety, but it is not listed as a cherrypicker's variety, although it probably should be. My '34-D is the small D variety. Unfortunately, NGC does not place this designtion on the holder insert.

 

Hoot

[BankNote1]

I guess the next question is; How do you get Bill Fivaz to put the darned coin in the guide???

[Hoot]

I guess the next question is; How do you get Bill Fivaz to put the darned coin in the guide???

 

I believe that AVickery gave the answer to this question here:

 

Cherrypicker's contact info.

 

Hoot

[BankNote1]

Hoot thanks for the link. I had that info it is in the CP Guide. I know how to contact Bill. The question was how do you get him to put the coin in the CP guide???

[Hoot]

Hoot thanks for the link. I had that info it is in the CP Guide. I know how to contact Bill. The question was how do you get him to put the coin in the CP guide???

 

I only know that if you make a request based on some form of sound collecting logic, he'll consider it. In this case, you can point to Lange's book that mentions the small D. I can only guess that it's a matter of trying to convince Fivaz from there. He knows buffalo nickels very well, so it may not take much convincing. I'd join you on such a request, if that matters at all.

 

Hoot

[BankNote1]

Hoot that is a good idea. I was thinking of maybe buying him a couple of lap dances!

[AVickery]

Hey Hoot,

 

I know I'm a bit late here, but I was told the contact info I had was outdated and I don't have any updates on his current contact information.

[DWLange]

A couple of points:

 

1) NGC will recognize Small D and Large D varieties of the 1934-D nickel under its VarietyPlus service. Our criteria for variety recognition includes items listed in the Red Book. While there is only an asterisk note for these mintmark sizes, that counts as inclusion. The same situation applies to the Small and Large S varieties of 1928, 1941 and 1942. We will recognize them if you mark the submission form for variety inclusion and add $7 per variety coin. The reason you don't see many such listings in our Census Report is that very few submitters have requested these varieties, and we don't just do them routinely as a part of the grading process.

 

2) Bill Fivaz is pretty much retired from involvement with The Cherrypickers' Guide. All responsibility for its content is with J. T. Stanton these days. He may be contacted at jtstanton@aol.com.

[Hoot]

Thanks for the correction Dave! I wish I'd have known so that I could have had the designation added to my '34-D when I sent it in for reholdering. I'll have to do that now.

 

Hoot

[BankNote1]

Why the heck can't NGC publish a list of which variety that they do recognize and which the don't recognize. There must be a list of some kind around NGC somewhere??? Having to try to guess is just stupid!!!!!

[cpm9ball]

A couple of points:

 

1) NGC will recognize Small D and Large D varieties of the 1934-D nickel under its VarietyPlus service. Our criteria for variety recognition includes items listed in the Red Book. While there is only an asterisk note for these mintmark sizes, that counts as inclusion. The same situation applies to the Small and Large S varieties of 1928, 1941 and 1942. We will recognize them if you mark the submission form for variety inclusion and add $7 per variety coin. The reason you don't see many such listings in our Census Report is that very few submitters have requested these varieties, and we don't just do them routinely as a part of the grading process.

 

2) Bill Fivaz is pretty much retired from involvement with The Cherrypickers' Guide. All responsibility for its content is with J. T. Stanton these days. He may be contacted at jtstanton@aol.com.

 

I contacted JT last week on another issue, and he is currently involved with completing another book. He suggested that all inquiries be tabled until the end of the 2nd or 3rd week of March.

 

Chris

[DWLange]

In response to Banknote1's question, the varieties NGC certifies are listed by categories on our website. There are also hardcopy flyers that we distribute at shows.

[BankNote1]

Dave thanks for the info.

Where are they listed online?

How can I get a copy of your flyer. I don't make very many shows sitting in my wheelchair!

Thanks for the information. I don't think I am the only one who doesn't know that information.

 

[BankNote1]

Because of not knowing if NGC would recognize the '34-D variety I let a nice coin slip by!!!

I did find this on the NGC site "Understanding and using NGC's VarietyPlus Service"

 

NGC will attribute Buffalo Nickel varieties

listed in Yeoman’s Guide Book and The

Cherrypickers’ Guide. Others may be found

within the books listed below.

References:

Lange, David W. The Complete Guide to Buffalo

Nickels, Second Edition. DLRC Press, Virginia

Beach, VA, 2000.

Wexler, John A., Ron Pope & Kevin Flynn.

Treasure Hunting Buffalo Nickels. Stanton

Publishing, Savannah, GA, 1999.

 

Doesn't this above statement make you think that NGC recognizes nickels from David's book and also Wexler's book?? My question is which one's? I am, as always, confused!

[DWLange]

Here a link that lists quite clearly which variety categories we recognize:

 

http://ngccoin.com/services/varietyplus.asp

 

Be certain to read down to the bottom of the page for the most succinct answer.