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An amazing, and sad thread, across the street.....

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Elbesaar

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Who in their right mind would have done such a thing ? The coin before it was messed with was one of the nicest 1878-CC Trade Dollars I have ever seen. Its a criminal act as far as I'm concerned.

 

What were they expecting ...blazing white luster ? Sad, very sad !

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the_Thing ®

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Someones opinion is that it had been dipped a few times before it got that toning. Hell, how can you be 100% sure the toning that got dipped away was original. Its very sad that such rare pieces, and not so rare pieces get ruined from AT'ing and dipping. Its a plague upon the hobby.

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the_Thing ®

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You know, American Numismatic Rarities knows who purchased the origianal, and who is selling it now. They should have the weight of the coin collecting world lean on them to ID the fool. I'm surprised no one has suggested this in the thread at CU. If they do ID the person, I'm sure they would be open for some type of lawsuit. Still, they know what was done, and who done it. If they don't say, make them pay.

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It`s all in the price realized !!!!! I would agree that the coin doesn`t have the same eye appeal that it originally had. My opinion only ! But someone made a $10,000 + profit on it from it`s second sale. I would hope that the new owner finally acquired that once in a lifetime piece and are so pleased that they are oblivious to the knowledge of the coins previous condition. What a shame.

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the_Thing ®

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I'm a bit torn on this issue. If someone buys the coin, its their property to do with as they please, but man, this is just wrong. The buyer/doctor should be shunned by the numismatic community, as well as ANR for being a knowingly participant in this "defacing" of American history.

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jom

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as well as ANR for being a knowingly participant in this "defacing" of American history.

 

That's a really OLD thread....it got resurfaced because TDN noted it had been put in the NGC rarity.

 

Also, do you really think ANR had anything to do with this? I doubt it...

 

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EZ_E

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I liked the ol' switch-switch-switch-a-roo that someone did with the pictures. Tweak the photos a little here and a little there and presto! It ain't so bad now.

 

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the_Thing ®

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That's a really OLD thread

 

Its new to me, and many in this forum.

 

Also, do you really think ANR had anything to do with this?

 

Jom, I don't think they had anything to do with the doctoring, but I'm sure they knew the "second" coin had been doctored. Its not like its a common date coin man! Very specialzed collectors deal with coins like that. They have extremely small populations. They should of known, and I'm guessing they DID know the Norweb coin had been dipped.

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jom

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Its new to me, and many in this forum.

 

Geez..don't have a cow....maaaan. cool.gif I was just pointing out it was an old thread only because it took me a few minutes to notice. No big deal...

 

They have extremely small populations

 

OK, I agree. But ALL auctions companies do the same thing so I don't think it is quite fair to rip on ANR about this. I'm sure Heritage and others have run numerous "doctored" and/or dipped CERTIFIED coins thru their companies. Hell, I'd put more blame on the TPG before any auction company. Either way, the nimrod who dipped this coin obviously takes the VAST majority of the blame here.... What the hell were they thinking?

 

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Tradedollarnut

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It was a Stacks auction [on ANR's website thru their cooperative venture].

 

Coins get dipped/messed with all the time. I recently saw a PR64DCAM seated dollar that used to be mine - it got upgraded after being dipped and probably smoked to hide hairlines in the right obverse field.

 

It makes me very wary about what I purchase!

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EZ_E

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tradedollarnut, you sure are an asset to the hobby! thumbsup2.gif

 

I certainly benefit, as well as other collectors, when TDN, Newmismatist and Boiler76 share their knowledge, wisdom and experience. Not too many collectors can endulge in the hobby to the extent that these three do yet, they are humble enough to mingle with us "common folks" and educate us a tad.

 

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EZ_E

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Thanks, guys! Being appreciated makes it all worthwhile!

 

We may appreciate you, TDN, but we're still a long way off from lovin' ya!

 

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EVillageProwler

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It kills me to say anything nice about TDN -- being conditioned thusly by you-know-who -- but he typically exercises his superlative analytical and communication skills here and across the street to our collective benefit.

 

To those who've never met TDN, I think this thread just made his head even bigger!

 

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