superlative blue toned proof indian cents in upcoming goldberg long beach sale

[michael]

 

 

i see that goldberg has some outstanding blue colored-toned proof indian head cents in their upcoming long beach auction

 

for me..........

to get mostly even blue color on both sides is truly rare and extremely beautiful on an indian head cent in proof

 

no they are not my coins

 

but i do think these blue toned proof coins are rarer than and more beautiful than average proof red indians in the same grades

 

it would be great to get a proof set of a blue colored toned all proofs and gem grade from the 19th century

two cent piece

indian head cent

half cent

large cent

three cent nick

lib nick

 

the indian is a great start

 

 

these blue proofs are envelope toned and i have seen some proof indians before like this as they all have the same look and secondary coloration again from being stored in envelopes for many decades

 

here is a copy and paste link

 

http://216.67.248.212/cgi-bin/viewchap.pl?site=1&sale=28&chapter=42&page=1

 

 

take a looksee and let me know which is your favorite and why?

 

oh here are the specific lots i like!! 873 874 878 884 891 896 911 916

 

michael

[EZ_E]

I like the color of the 1883 but w/o the spots on the devices.

 

O/W I like the following:

 

 

 

 

Lot 884 1886 Indian Head Cent. Variety 1. Snow-1, Scarce. PCGS graded Proof 66 Brown. Strongly reflective fields under uniform coffee brown coloration. Liberty, wreath and lettering are all rich indigo blue and frosty. Technically superior and found with soft, shimmering metal flow in the obverse fields. Two distinct types exist for the 1886 Indian Cent issue, the Type I (Hub of 1864-1886) and Type II (Hub of 1886-1909). The present specimen is identified as a Type I variety by the last feather of the headdress pointing between the IC of AMERICA. On the Type II examples, the last feather is seen pointing between the CA of AMERICA. Proof issues of the Type I hub are scarcer than the proof issues of the Type II hub. This superb gem specimen is also a Snow-1 example, displaying light repunching in the 6 of the date and other diagnostics such as outlines on all obverse lettering and the AM and TA connecting. PCGS population of 1 with none finer.

Estimated Value $1,700-1,800.

Current Opening Bid $1,700

View details and photo

 

 

And, you know my affinity for blue proofs. Great post, Mike.

[Leothelion]

I'm sorry but I only saw red, red and brown and brown cents!

 

Leo

[Elbesaar]

That sure is one nice proof ... I really never got into proof Indian Cents... have never seen one with that amount of blue toning.

[EZ_E]

Amazing that they were so underpriced just a few, short years ago. Seems that the prices slung the other way, now (i.e. from underpriced to overpriced?).

[Hoot]

Superb coins! I simply love the 1886! The toning looks almost perfectly even and transparent.

 

Thanks Michael!

 

Hoot

[michael]

well we shall see what these proofs bring in auction my fellow collectors

 

i am extremely curious to find out

 

if anyone gets the results please post them on this thread

 

 

michael

[Chippewa]

They do look great. Just a word of caution for those that may think of bidding on-line. My experience is that Goldberg and Superior both seem to juice up their auction images to the point where the pictures look better than the coins.

 

I like the Heritage approach a lot better, where their lousy photography usually has the opposite effect.

[Leothelion]

They do look great. Just a word of caution for those that may think of bidding on-line. My experience is that Goldberg and Superior both seem to juice up their auction images to the point where the pictures look better than the coins.

 

I like the Heritage approach a lot better, where their lousy photography usually has the opposite effect.

 

Yeah, the contrast might be alittle high but the luster is usually lost in most pictures.

 

Leo

[jom]

I like the Heritage approach a lot better, where their lousy photography usually has the opposite effect.

 

I'd like it if they'd just try to get a somewhat accurate picture. It CAN be done. I like to think mine are fairly close and I know that there are a number of members here who can. So can't coin auction companies who have millions of dollars in sales every year do it?

 

jom

[EZ_E]

I like the Heritage approach a lot better, where their lousy photography usually has the opposite effect.

 

I'd like it if they'd just try to get a somewhat accurate picture. It CAN be done. I like to think mine are fairly close and I know that there are a number of members here who can. So can't coin auction companies who have millions of dollars in sales every year do it?

 

jom

 

 

[Techno_mike-migration]

I like the Heritage approach a lot better, where their lousy photography usually has the opposite effect.

 

I'd like it if they'd just try to get a somewhat accurate picture. It CAN be done. I like to think mine are fairly close and I know that there are a number of members here who can. So can't coin auction companies who have millions of dollars in sales every year do it?

 

jom

 

I whole-heartedly agree with the assessment that Heritage doesn't take the best pic's in the business. The attached file is made up of my simple setup with a Vivitar 3632 2 mega pixel camera using axial lighting. Your opinion - Which is better?

[TomB]

I'd also like to add that where Goldbergs puts an estimated selling price listing with a lot that it can be exceptionally lowball. I've always assumed that they do this so that they can tell the consignor that they received %500 of the pre-auction estimate.

[gmarguli]

I'd also like to add that where Goldbergs puts an estimated selling price listing with a lot that it can be exceptionally lowball. I've always assumed that they do this so that they can tell the consignor that they received %500 of the pre-auction estimate.

 

I love some of their estimates. I've seen coins that I'd pay several times the esitmate and would still be blown away by the final price.

 

I think they do it more so they can tell potential consigners about how well they do. We estimated we'd get $3M for this sale and we ended up with $4.7M. I can't imagine that there are too many consigners out there that are fooled by the estimates they put on their coins. I've found that the low estimates are usually attached to superbly toned coins and owners of that material usually have a good feel for the market. Gut feeling is that much of this stuff is consigned by dealers.

[jom]

Gut feeling is that much of this stuff is consigned by dealers.

 

You don't need your gut to tell you that. It's a well known fact...at least so I thought.

 

jom