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Half Cent die state confusion.

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I am confused about an 1835 C2 that is listed as a common variety. I have Mr. Breen's and Dr. Manley's books on Half Cents. Mr. Breen's book does not give a die state rarity, so therefore I would assume they are all common. Dr. Manley's book states that all 3 die states are either very scarce or scarce, yet he states the C2 is common. I cannot get my head around this conflict.

As it relates to the first part, I have an 1833 Manley die state 3 (very rare), how does the die state affect the value of the coin? Will NGC attribute the coin as " 1833 C1 MDS3?


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The three die states are scarce individually, but their combined population makes C-2 a common variety. There are many such instances with our early coins.


NGC does not recognize die states, since this area of the science is still evolving. While the Manley book is fairly definitive, and there's little disagreement with his die states among specialists, most of the other variety books for early USA coins are flawed in this respect.

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