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JJ, in regards to that CNG coin we were discussing PM

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JJ, I got an e-mail back saying the offer would be reviewed by Victor England when he returns Jan 3.

 

Any news yet? juggle.gif

 

-JamminJ

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Ya know JJ, i'm really torn on buying this coin. I think I'll wait for a better example, but who knows when it comes along. If one does come along, I could always sell this one. I know you think the one on ebay that sold for $190.00 was a better coin, I disagree for a few reasons. Maybe I should just flip a coin.

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These are always tough decisions. For me usually it comes down to what's holding me back, the coin or the price?

 

If I find a coin that's significantly better than any other I've seen for sale (or are likely to see) then I'm willing to stretch a bit money wise. Alternately, if I'm thinking of an upgrade before even buying the current one I usually pass.

 

-JamminJ

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Well, I've been thinking. Since I started Crusaders, this is the 3rd example I have found, anywhere. There was a better example I posted here that I did bid on, but I'm glad I didn't win because it had several scratches not mentioned in the auction, the second example you saw on ebay, and this one. So lets say maybe around 8 of these come into the market each year. Somewhat rare coin imo.

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Well hell, I purchased it. I'm a bit surprised CNG doesn't have secure ordering by CC on their website. Guess I'll have to call tomorrow to give it to them. The determining factor in buying it was the fact, as I said, only a few turn up each year, and I like the patina w/earthen highlights. If I ever upgrade, I should be able to get most of my money back, if not all.

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Ya know, what do you think a US coin would bring that only has 8 or so examples appearing in the market each year? 893scratchchin-thumb.gif

 

Depends on the series. Something dead like shield nickels might not bring much at all. Something popular in you're talking moon money!

 

-JamminJ

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Ya know, what do you think a US coin would bring that only has 8 or so examples appearing in the market each year? 893scratchchin-thumb.gif

 

Depends on the series. Something dead like shield nickels might not bring much at all. Something popular in you're talking moon money!

 

-JamminJ

 

You're a nut job JJ. makepoint.gif Take, for instance, the 1867 with rays (T1) shield that just sold for 95 grand. Two of those have sold in a year to my recollection and there are about 20 out there.

 

Don't EVER unwittingly attack nickels again. sumo.gif

 

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You're a nut job JJ. makepoint.gif Take, for instance, the 1867 with rays (T1) shield that just sold for 95 grand. Two of those have sold in a year to my recollection and there are about 20 out there.

 

Isn't that the one where according to the pop report, more have been graded by one sevrice than were minted. 27_laughing.gif

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You're a nut job JJ. makepoint.gif Take, for instance, the 1867 with rays (T1) shield that just sold for 95 grand. Two of those have sold in a year to my recollection and there are about 20 out there.

 

Don't EVER unwittingly attack nickels again. sumo.gif

 

screwy.gif Hoot yeahok.gif

 

A actually like shield nickels.

 

Besides, Thing asked for my opinion of a US coin where eight came up for sale in a year. Since there are only four collectors of shield nickels in the world I think the prices would be weak indeed.

 

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-JamminJ

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Isn't that the one where according to the pop report, more have been graded by one sevrice than were minted. 27_laughing.gif

 

Yup. insane.gif

 

A actually like shield nickels.

 

Besides, Thing asked for my opinion of a US coin where eight came up for sale in a year. Since there are only four collectors of shield nickels in the world I think the prices would be weak indeed.

 

Okay, so I can't count. But I think you should prvide a variance for the number of collectors, e.g., 4 ± 6. Given the probability (≤0.32) of there being either 0, -1, or -2 collectors of shield nickels, it means that there a significant chance that nobody is actually buying ANY shield nickels, and the sales records (as well as the population reports) are completely deceptive and intended to dupe any would-be shield nickel collectors out of their money should they enter the "market." And now that I've defeated my original point, I'll claim (rather boldly) that the Thing doesn't really exist. He is a computer-generated "Elvis" of sorts, created by the auction houses in order to generate some would-be enthusiasm about Crusader coinage and other obscure bubblegum-like coins. boo.gif He brings up dreadful example, comparing hypothetical prices of highly-demanded U.S. coins to little chips of metal that someone with a sense of humor years and years ago stamped an inscription on. The whole premise is a mess. And so is this post. insane.gif

 

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Okay, so I can't count. But I think you should prvide a variance for the number of collectors, e.g., 4 ± 6. Given the probability (≤0.32) of there being either 0, -1, or -2 collectors of shield nickels, it means that there a significant chance that nobody is actually buying ANY shield nickels, and the sales records (as well as the population reports) are completely deceptive and intended to dupe any would-be shield nickel collectors out of their money should they enter the "market." And now that I've defeated my original point, I'll claim (rather boldly) that the Thing doesn't really exist. He is a computer-generated "Elvis" of sorts, created by the auction houses in order to generate some would-be enthusiasm about Crusader coinage and other obscure bubblegum-like coins. boo.gif He brings up dreadful example, comparing hypothetical prices of highly-demanded U.S. coins to little chips of metal that someone with a sense of humor years and years ago stamped an inscription on. The whole premise is a mess. And so is this post. insane.gif

 

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Touche! 27_laughing.gif

 

-JamminJ

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it means that there a significant chance that nobody is actually buying ANY shield nickels, and the sales records (as well as the population reports) are completely deceptive and intended to dupe any would-be shield nickel collectors out of their money should they enter the "market."

 

FYI, I have long though of putting together a set of Shield Nickels. All I wanted was well struck, highly lusterous, and brilliant examples without any signs of die cracks or marks on the shield, in MS64-65 grades. Other than that, no other real requirements.

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I'll claim (rather boldly) that the Thing doesn't really exist. He is a computer-generated "Elvis" of sorts, created by the auction houses in order to generate some would-be enthusiasm about Crusader coinage and other obscure bubblegum-like coins

 

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FYI, I have long though of putting together a set of Shield Nickels. All I wanted was well struck, highly lusterous, and brilliant examples without any signs of die cracks or marks on the shield, in MS64-65 grades. Other than that, no other real requirements.

 

Do you plan on putting this set together before or after implimenting your plan for world peace? Next thing you say is that you're interested in finding attractive Barber coins. 27_laughing.gif

 

-JamminJ

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FYI, I have long though of putting together a set of Shield Nickels. All I wanted was well struck, highly lusterous, and brilliant examples without any signs of die cracks or marks on the shield, in MS64-65 grades. Other than that, no other real requirements.

 

Do you plan on putting this set together before or after implimenting your plan for world peace? Next thing you say is that you're interested in finding attractive Barber coins. 27_laughing.gif

 

-JamminJ

 

Precisely. I think I'd be awaiting the arrival of Santa first.

 

Now what's this about attractive Barbers?

 

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You know JJ, sometimes life is funny...

 

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yea, I'm quoting myself. I thought "damned", I should of waited on my purchase because of that coin. I copied the jpg, lightened it and enlarged it. There are some pretty good scratches next to Mean Dude's face. Scratches are a deal killer 100% of the time for me.

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You know JJ, sometimes life is funny...

 

web page

 

yea, I'm quoting myself. I thought "damned", I should of waited on my purchase because of that coin. I copied the jpg, lightened it and enlarged it. There are some pretty good scratches next to Mean Dude's face. Scratches are a deal killer 100% of the time for me.

 

I see them there off to the right of Mean Dude's head. I like the one from CNG better.

 

-JamminJ

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Hey JJ, got the coin in today. Looks even better in hand. Green patina with orange earthen highlights, looks cool and funky. No scratches or tooling. Nice thick coin. The sword is visible also, which wasn't in CNG's image. There is a lot of fine detail visible.

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