Not real happy with my sight-unseen purchases - your opinion?

[James_OldeTowne]

I bought these certifed quarters sight-unseen, and am not thrilled with the grades. They were intended for my personal collection. Please tell me:

 

1. what you think each graded and by whom

2. what you think of the coins overall

 

The images are pretty accurate. Defects you see really are on the coins, not the slab (they seem to be recently-certified coins). I'll reveal the grades & services in a couple of days. Thanks!

 

 

1948-D Washington Quarter

JUMBO Image

 

 

1968-D Washington Quarter

JUMBO Image

 

James

[kryptonitecomics]

The 48-D looks like an MS65 and I'll say it's graded an MS66 or better by NGC.

 

The 68-D looks like an MS65 or MS66 and I'll say it's graded an MS67 by PCGS.

 

 

Was I close??? Their were shadows on the coins and it couldn't tell if some of the marks were fuzz or actual marks.

[dakra]

If I had to guess,

the 48-D is a MS64, graded MS65 by NGC?

The 68 is an MS66 graded MS67 by PCGS?

 

Dave

[thebeav]

Hi James,

I like them both as 65's.....Something tells me you're going to shock us....

 

Edited to add....The scratch behind Washingtons head on the '48 and the spot at 12:00 on the '68 prevents anything higher.

Paul

[jom]

Here's my GUESS:

 

The 48-D seems to be the higher grade of the two because of luster I'd think. The 68-D seems to have a lot of the "chicken scratches" you see on many clad coins. Its luster is subdue as compared to the 48-D.

 

I have absolutely NO idea who graded them but based on your disappointment I'd say: 48-D MS66, 68-D MS65

 

jom

[dakra]

I was actually going to say ACG but didn't want to get sued :-)

 

Dave

[Tradedollarnut]

They both look like commercial 65's. Not necessarily something you'd want in your personal collection.

[TomB]

I bet they are both graded MS66.

[gmarguli]

The 1948-D looks like a so-so MS66.

 

The 1968-D is a little harder. Much of the "marks" on the head are likely unstruck planchet. I can see it in an MS66 slab, but I think unless it was graded on a loose day, it's an MS65.

 

As for the grading service, it doesn't matter at these grade levels.

[Oldtrader3]

I would grade the '48-D MS65 and the '68-D as MS64, but I'm sure that they probably went a grade higher than that.

[Hoot]

The 48-D is a nice looking coin, with a good strike, but the hairlines and other scratches are grade-limiting. It should grade MS64.

 

The 68-D is scritchy with a flat obverse strike. Mr. Washington's hair is lacking locks! Is that lacklockster? MS64.

 

Hoot

[Leothelion]

If $16 can get you a 7 second coin grade, just think what $30 can buy you!

A 7 second coin grade!

 

Leo

[scroll]

I'll say MS63 on the 1948-D and MS64/65 on the 1968-D.

[Bruceswar]

48 D NGC 65

68 PCGS 63

[wingedliberty-migration]

Its always important to deal with specialist dealers who have a return policy and a good reputation.

[James_OldeTowne]

I'm a little surprised at some of the guesses, and maybe I've been a little too choosy on the clad coins. Are they graded to a little "looser" standard than earlier Washingtons? To reveal the grades, here they are:

 

1948-D: NGC MS-65

1968-D: PCGS MS-66

 

I thought both coins were really MS-64s.

 

Maybe it's good news in a way, because every single coin in my Dansco Washington album is better than both of these examples (of course the album's not complete), and that might mean I have some real hum-dingers!

 

Thanks to everyone for the guesses and comments. I got some really good insights from this thread.

 

James

[kryptonitecomics]

Dude...I was right on with the grading companies and pretty much the grades......a little off on the second but in line with what I felt the grade was

 

 

Do I win one of them??

[dakra]

James,

I'm right there along with your thinking. Sometimes I wonder why some Washington's grade the way they do. I've submitted coins that I thought would grade MS66 only to have them grade MS64 and then I've had some that I thought would grade lower and graded higher.

 

As far as I can tell from the picture, The '48 looks like a nice crisp strike and the '68 looks like a mushy strike. I think that's what the grading services based their grading on, I don't always agree with it but...

 

Dave