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Same year, same denomination, different design question

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I am aware of the 1921 Peace and Morgan also the 1909 wheat and indians.

 

What other years were the same denomination and different designs minted?

 

Also why?

 

Just curious

 

thanks

 

Jim

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1837 Capped Bust Half Dimes and Dimes & Liberty Seated Half Dimes and Dimes

1838 Capped Bust Quarters & Liberty Seated Quarters

1839 Capped Bust Half Dollars & Liberty Seated Half Dollars

1916 Barber & Mercury Dimes

1916 Barber & Standing Liberty Quarters

1916 Barber & Walking Liberty Half Dollars

1938 Buffalo & Jefferson Nickels

 

I am sure that there are more...

 

Why? I don't know the real reason other than it was time for a "change".

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1878 dollar - Trade / Morgan

 

1942 Jefferson nickel - Nickel / 35% silver (design changed to add a mint mark above Monticello)

 

Also 1913 buffalo nickels (the type 1 / type 2), and 1917 SLQ's (type 1 / type 2) - they had a totally different design made, not a small variety

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The why depends on the year and denomination. I believe sometimes it has been politics. Sometimes there was a real need to produce the denomination for use but the new designs/dies were not quite ready so the old design was used to produce coins until the new was ready. In other cases the mint produced things at the demand/request of collectors.

 

Various reasons I am sure.

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I think David W Lange wrote a few very interesting articles in his column on NGC's website (I think it was called transitional pairs or transitional coins or something like this) on this subject. I found it very interesting and educational.

I'll see if I can find it and post a link here

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If you can find a link that would be great.

 

I will also PM David.

 

I was thinking it may be a cool type set for someone to try and assemble.

 

the 16 standing liberty would be one of the sticklers for sure.

 

Nothing I would try to assemble, but it was just a thought and seemed to be some fun information to learn.

 

 

 

 

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In the late 19th and 20th centuries, there was a desire by Treasury to introduce new denominations at the beginning of a new fiscal year, calendar year or to coincide with a special anniversary date. Of course, that rarely worked out as planned.

 

PS: Trade Dollars were described as bullion pieces, not legal tender coins when they were introduced.

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Thanks for the link yonico.

 

Very good read. I am going to have to read through it again.

 

I did not see part 3 though. Appears to go from 2 to 4?

 

PART 3

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1837 Capped Bust Half Dimes and Dimes & Liberty Seated Half Dimes and Dimes

1838 Capped Bust Quarters & Liberty Seated Quarters

1839 Capped Bust Half Dollars & Liberty Seated Half Dollars

1916 Barber & Mercury Dimes

1916 Barber & Standing Liberty Quarters

1916 Barber & Walking Liberty Half Dollars

1938 Buffalo & Jefferson Nickels

 

I am sure that there are more...

 

Why? I don't know the real reason other than it was time for a "change".

 

There were no 1916 Barber halves.

 

If Trade Dollars are allowed, then 1873 Seated and Trade Dollars.

 

1907 Liberty $10 & $20, and the St. Gaudens replacements.

1908 Liberty $5 and Indian $5.

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PS: Trade Dollars were described as bullion pieces, not legal tender coins when they were introduced.

They may have been described as bullion pieces, but they WERE legal tender coins when they were introduced. Legal tender status was limited to $5. They didn't lose their legal tender status until 1876.

 

A few more examples

1793 cents Chain Wreath and Liberty cap.

1796 cent Liberty Cap and Draped bust.

three cent silver trime and coppernickel both struck 1863 through 1873

Half dimes and shield nickels 1866 through 1873

large cents and flying eagles in 1857

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In 1793 there were three cent designs during a space of 10 months:

 

1. 1793 Chain Cent - quickly replaced because critics at the time thought that the chain design on the reverse symbolized slavery, not unity as it was intended to do.

 

2. 1793 Wreath Cent - Ms. Liberty's wild, windswept hair reminded one critic of "a wild squaw with the heebie-jeebies."

 

3. 1793 Cap Cent - This design, which was inspired by the Libertas Americana medal, was accepted and was used on the cent from 1793 to 1796

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I'm surprised nobody mentioned the 1913 V nickel

Wasn't a legitimate mint issue.

 

I didn't say it was, but I'm surprised nobody mentioned it just the same.

 

Chris

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