Popular Post Lem E Posted April 29, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 29, 2021 (edited) Having some imaging done by Joe “Crazyhounddog” B. (aka Buffalo Head). They are far beyond my expectations. I don’t have much copper but here is one of them. NGC MS63BN Edited April 29, 2021 by Lem E Add ldhair, Hoghead515, Coinbuf and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoghead515 Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 2 hours ago, Lem E said: Having some imaging done by Joe “Crazyhounddog” B. (aka Buffalo Head). They are far beyond my expectations. I don’t have much copper but here is one of them. NGC MS63BN Sweet looking Lincoln !!!!! Love it. Lem E 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coinbuf Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 Brown copper can be highly photogenic. Lem E and Hoghead515 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus Arrius Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 Humble off-the-cuff observation... The photography skills of Buffalo Head greatly exceed those of any photographer employed by the various TPGS, since their inception. Lem E and Hoghead515 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoghead515 Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 (edited) 38 minutes ago, Quintus Arrius said: Humble off-the-cuff observation... The photography skills of Buffalo Head greatly exceed those of any photographer employed by the various TPGS, since their inception. I agree. His photos are amazing. I really like them. Alot Edited April 30, 2021 by Hoghead515 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoghead515 Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 He captures the true beauty of them. He's got a good setup and the skill to go with it. Ive tried everything with what I have and can't get it right. Without buying a more expensive set up the pictures I been taking is as good as it gets for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Hoghead515 Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 33 minutes ago, Rollo Tomassi said: I love that. Nice one. That's one on my bucket list to own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Coinbuf Posted May 3, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 3, 2021 (edited) Some spectacular copper has been displayed in this thread , thanks to all for participating and keeping it alive and vibrant. Edited May 3, 2021 by Coinbuf AcesKings, robec1347, Lem E and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Hoghead515 Posted May 3, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 3, 2021 I love 1909 cents. My favorite year of that design. This is a lower grade coin but it's the only 1909 S I have. I love the look of the woodgrain on the reverse. I wish it didn't have the big ugly black spot on the obverse. But overall I am very happy to own it. May be the only one I ever get the chance to own. I bet this old coin could tell some stories if it could talk. ANACS F12 robec1347, Coinbuf, Lem E and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Quintus Arrius Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 [I found two cents today. One was a brown Wheatie dated 1941. The other was a bright shiny 2020. I asked my wife which of the two was more valuable. She smiled and said the new one. I said, "No, it's this one," handing her the old Lincoln "because it's worth a lot more based on copper content alone." She asked me what I was going to do with the other one. I answered truthfully: throw it into the street where it belongs. And I did. True story.] There's nothing like the real thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rollo Tomassi Posted May 8, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 8, 2021 WAIT !!! There's more...... robec1347, Lem E, Hoghead515 and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus Arrius Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 43 minutes ago, Rollo Tomassi said: WAIT !!! There's more...... Very lovely. The stars are literally united. Nice catch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Coinbuf Posted May 19, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 19, 2021 Sent a few coins out for imaging and have been working on doing some simple and basic slab images myself. Not a glamor shot by any means but I like how this coin presents in the full slab shot, sometimes its nice to step back just a bit and enjoy the luster a full view allows. Mr.Bill347, Hoghead515, robec1347 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Coinbuf Posted May 29, 2021 Share Posted May 29, 2021 Picked this up recently on a whim, need to sit down and attempt a nice shot but only have this quick slab shot. robec1347 and Lem E 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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dleonard-3 Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 11 hours ago, JBock said: 😍 WOW! That is one amazing cameo SMS cent. Those don't come around very often. I'm very envious. JBock and robec1347 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBock Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 12 minutes ago, dleonard-3 said: WOW! That is one amazing cameo SMS cent. Those don't come around very often. I'm very envious. Yeah love the cameo SMS coins!!! Looking for a 1980 70 Ultra Cameo next. Tough to find though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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GBrad Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 On 7/20/2021 at 12:03 PM, Coinbuf said: Hey Coinbuf, beautiful Cent! If I may Sir, would you mind if I attempt my feeble grading skills (or an attempt therefore) on this one? I am SO badly trying to learn better at assigning grades (even remotely close at this point) to my coins, predominantly Lincolns. Am I even in the ballpark in saying this one went 66 'ish' R? Coinbuf 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coinbuf Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 (edited) On 7/20/2021 at 9:50 AM, GBrad said: Hey Coinbuf, beautiful Cent! If I may Sir, would you mind if I attempt my feeble grading skills (or an attempt therefore) on this one? I am SO badly trying to learn better at assigning grades (even remotely close at this point) to my coins, predominantly Lincolns. Am I even in the ballpark in saying this one went 66 'ish' R? Thank you for the kind words sir; NGC graded it as MS65RB, there is some light tan coloring that does not show up as much in this photo as it does in hand. The strike is MS67 quality and the luster would support an MS66 grade; while I will never know for sure I suspect that the two dark spots on the reverse are what held it back in grade. CAC liked it enough to give a green bean, so your MS66 guess is very close. I have considered cracking it and sending to PCGS just to see if it would go MS66, but I'm not one for those kind of games. Edited July 20, 2021 by Coinbuf GBrad 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBrad Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 On 7/20/2021 at 1:12 PM, Coinbuf said: NGC graded it as MS65RB, there is some light tan coloring that does not show up as much in this photo as it does in hand. The strike is MS67 quality and the luster would support an MS66 grade; while I will never know for sure I suspect that the two dark spots on the reverse are what held it back in grade. CAC liked it enough to give a green bean, so your MS66 guess is very close. I have considered cracking it and sending to PCGS just to see if it would go MS66, but I'm not one for those kind of games. Thank you for your reply to my question Chris. I really appreciate it. No bologna and in all honesty, before I commented on it being possibly MS66, I also believed the strike to be exceptional and it appeared to have very nice luster (even though it appears Red in the photo but RB's can still have nice eye appeal).. right along the same lines of thinking as an expert such of your caliber (which I am not!!!!) but it makes me feel a tad bit better that I am starting to see the correct aspects that I need to examine in applying my grading skills. I did notice the small spots on the reverse but was hoping it would not be a major deciding factor. I'm pretty stoked that I got that close! Thanks! Coinbuf 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coinbuf Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 On 7/20/2021 at 10:22 AM, GBrad said: Thank you for your reply to my question Chris. I really appreciate it. No bologna and in all honesty, before I commented on it being possibly MS66, I also believed the strike to be exceptional and it appeared to have very nice luster (even though it appears Red in the photo but RB's can still have nice eye appeal).. right along the same lines of thinking as an expert such of your caliber (which I am not!!!!) but it makes me feel a tad bit better that I am starting to see the correct aspects that I need to examine in applying my grading skills. I did notice the small spots on the reverse but was hoping it would not be a major deciding factor. I'm pretty stoked that I got that close! Thanks! Something to also consider when looking at this and similar coins and guessing a TPG grade is the effect of the pop numbers. For example NGC shows 55 in MS65 and 3 in MS66 for the RB color, while only 5 in MS65 and 1 in MS66 for RD no plus graded coins in either group. PCGS pop report shows 55 in MS65 and 1 in MS66 for RB with 29 in MS65 and a lone MS65+ in the RD group. Interestingly both services have higher pops for BN as NGC shows 4 at MS66 and PCGS shows 1 with a lone MS66+ for brown coins. For what its worth I would take my coin over any (save that 66+BN as its gorgeous) that I seen photos of or in hand The point I'm making is that like it or not the pops do have an influence on what happens in the grading room, graders may not be looking up pop numbers but they are aware of these things and it can have an effect at some subconscious level. These numbers also influence my thought process on if I would want to crack and resubmit, I'm already near the top and it would suck if I were to crack it and get a lower grade or even an opinion of recolored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBrad Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 On 7/20/2021 at 1:53 PM, Coinbuf said: Something to also consider when looking at this and similar coins and guessing a TPG grade is the effect of the pop numbers. For example NGC shows 55 in MS65 and 3 in MS66 for the RB color, while only 5 in MS65 and 1 in MS66 for RD no plus graded coins in either group. PCGS pop report shows 55 in MS65 and 1 in MS66 for RB with 29 in MS65 and a lone MS65+ in the RD group. Interestingly both services have higher pops for BN as NGC shows 4 at MS66 and PCGS shows 1 with a lone MS66+ for brown coins. For what its worth I would take my coin over any (save that 66+BN as its gorgeous) that I seen photos of or in hand The point I'm making is that like it or not the pops do have an influence on what happens in the grading room, graders may not be looking up pop numbers but they are aware of these things and it can have an effect at some subconscious level. These numbers also influence my thought process on if I would want to crack and resubmit, I'm already near the top and it would suck if I were to crack it and get a lower grade or even an opinion of recolored. Great info here. I always somewhat figured that pop reports have an effect as you mention. Whether subconsciously or not, one would have to assume this. I did look up that Brown MS66+.... WOW.... beautiful to say the least with that toning and not to mention what it may go for. And regarding cracking it..... uh... that one is a toughie for sure. Coinbuf 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus Arrius Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 @Coinbuf With or without an enhanced evaluation, you made a mature decision. Your Lincolns are unsurpassed. You' re the only member who has dared to publicly proclaim you will not be a slave to a specific TPGS. That's pretty gutsy and I cannot help but respect your position. 🐓 GBrad and Coinbuf 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocket23 Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 On 7/20/2021 at 2:05 PM, GBrad said: Great info here. I always somewhat figured that pop reports have an effect as you mention. Whether subconsciously or not, one would have to assume this. I did look up that Brown MS66+.... WOW.... beautiful to say the least with that toning and not to mention what it may go for. And regarding cracking it..... uh... that one is a toughie for sure. Getting a “red book”will help in your grading skills imho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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