1807 COMET VARIETY

[errorist]

The red book 2004 issue has labeled this coin a "Comet" variety ( Die break behind the head)....... PAGE 84.Why is this coin labeled a variety when it is a die break error coin?

 

[kryptonitecomics]

Because a die break is a variety and not an error......is that what you wanted to hear?

 

That's why we have Sheldon and overton type numbers because sometimes a die break is one of the main diagnostics that Identifies one die variety over another.....in my humble opinion.

[errorist]

So in some cases it can be the only diagnostic tool to recognize one die variety over another. Correct? Also, does the same hold true for proof coins?

[kryptonitecomics]

Yes correct. As for proof coins.............I just don't know. I have never seen a proof given a different variety number because of a crack, gouge or anything else only business strike, but that doesn't me it hasn't happened.

 

I would think realistically that it could be the case for proofs, but since a proof die would be used a lot less than a business strike die.....I don't know if anyone has put together a comprehensive list of die varieties on any proof denominations, because they just don't let the proof dies wear out the same way as a business strike.

 

 

Most of this is conjecture on my part, but I am sure others with more knowledge on the subject will chime in.

 

In my opinion, your quarter is a variety, but due to a lack of interest would not be slabbed as an error......pretty much what NGC told you. The PMM designation has no shot at making it on an NGC slab, which I am sure you understand by now.

[errorist]

I understand they won't put "YOU KNOW" on it but ANACS & NGS is placing Wounded Eagle on this coin which is a die gouge (still a die error). I would think a proof would desreve the same recognition even if "YOU KNOW" is not on it.

 

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=524&item=3926565765&rd=1&ssPageName=WD1V

[braddick]

ANACS will list "wounded eagle" also on the insert.

 

Personally, on your PMM proof quarter I'd try SEGS.

[XpipedreamR]

Just out of curiosity, errorist...

 

 

Based on the response you've gotten thus far to this whole situation, don't you think that maybe there's just no demand at this point for your die break to be attributed, either as PMM, or even at all? If anybody cared, I would think that the services would be happy to designate as PMM.

 

 

It doesn't really affect me either way...but who knows? Maybe as a result of all this talk, there will be a demand at some point for this attribution. More power to ya dude!

[errorist]

The difference in it being a proof is what I think is going to make the difference. The names on the holders seems to make a difference in the high bids such as "Wounded Eagle". But, 'Wounded Eagle" is a coin meant for circulation, and is not a proof ! Thus, not as scarce.It seems to have a high demand though based on what I have seen on Ebay so far with all those bids for the ANACS coins. I don't know about NGS yet this is the first one I have seen.It doesn't have to be PMM I want something other than die crack though to make it more unique like the other coins.