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My Favorite Buffalo

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I know there are a couple of Buffalo collectors here.

 

Here's my favorite a 1913-D TY2... It's being submitted across the street... I'm guessing a ms64.

 

Obverse

http://images.fotopic.net/?id=6015447

 

Reverse

http://images.fotopic.net/?id=6015448

 

Sorry, but I can't get the image to link directly to the thread using the UBB code.

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I can learn something here. I think all of the1913 Buffs were stuck well. Is the tail definition considered average, above average or below average for an Unc. 13 D Type II? Otherwise, the coin is 'there' strikewise. As I understand it, the grading services will factor strike into grading a Buff if it is subpar for the particular year & branch mint.

 

However, the above being said, at the MS 64 & better range, as I understand it, it's all about luster and contact marks. It's hard to see how attractive a toned coin such as yours actually is from an image. But I don't notice many contact marks on the coin. PCGS especially likes to see booming / dazzling luster on its higher end Uncs, and will forgive a contact mark or two in the grading room. They will ding a coin whose toning diminishes its luster, however.

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Elcontador - The piece shown is an excellent piece. In terms of strike, it has all of the detail that one could hope for from a 1913-D T2. The hair detail on the Indian is excellent with the transverse lines of the hair knot nearly complete. The tip of the long feather is clearly differentiated from the field. albeit a tad thin at the left tip. LIBERTY is clearly defined from the rims and the date and robe detail are superb. On the reverse, the hair of the bison's head is very good, but otherwise the weakest part of the strike. The bison's mane detail is good and shows clearly down the shoulder. There's just a touch of mushiness on the very highest points of the mane over the shoulder - perhaps a tad of friction, but not wear. Detail through the bison's body is very good and the tail shows clearly. The hind leg is strong and shows no fatigue. A tiny bit of chatter on the line forming the exergue above the denomination (FIVE CENTS). Not grade-limiting. There is noticable clash evidence in the motto and under the Indian's chin, but again, not grade limiting.

 

If this coin has good luster, it will deserve an MS65. Great luster, and it could get a 66. If, on the other hand, the coin is greatly subdued and if it has tics/nicks that are not visible in the photo, it could go MS64. However, I'd say that an MS65 grade is likely.

 

Hoot

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What Hoot said, and he can say it better than I could ever dream. smile.gif

 

Exactly what he mentioned as far as luster and this particular coin grading at pcgs is totally accurate. Even subdued, this coin may still pull off an ms/65 because of the strike and eye appeal factor.

 

Nice coin!

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Must resist doing Buffs... It was my fav series as a kid, but too expensive even in circ for me back then.

 

Learned a lot about the series a couple of years ago when B+M had an auction that included an awesome run of finest and tied-for-finest known specimens.

 

Was tempted to do a "Demi" during lot viewing!

 

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EVP

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Ozwald: You are getting sleepy....sleeeeeepy....you will sell this coin immediately to jom and not to those clowns Hoot and Wihlborg (the "Laurel and Hardy" of coin collectors). Sleeeepy...sleeepy...

 

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jom

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Ozwald: You are getting sleepy....sleeeeeepy....you will sell this coin immediately to jom and not to those clowns Hoot and Wihlborg (the "Laurel and Hardy" of cons collectors). Sleeeepy...sleeepy...

 

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jom

 

Shyster! Hypnotist! (jom spray paints his coins to make himself feel like he has a nice collection.) insane.gif

 

For a proper evaluation, please send to Hoot, The Warm Springs Facility, Anaconda, Montana, 5967890395846794

 

Hoot

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Ozwald,

 

I agree with Hoot about that shyster Jom, don’t pay any attention to what he says.

 

However, as I happen to know that Hoot is far too busy chasing after nice looking non full step Jeff’s to perform a proper evaluation of your coin at this time, you can send it to me care of the Westchester Buffalo Nickel Fanatic collector Society. devil.gif

 

John

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Why all of the sudden am I getting the urge to sell this coin?

 

Don't worry, I'll give you a fair price, while jom will lowball the daylights outta ya and Wihlborg doesn't really like these coins unless they glow in the dark. devil.gifangel.gif

 

Hoot

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I see Stanley and Oliver have showed up since I last posted. Ozwald, don't believe a word those clowns say. I pay very good money.......for my spray paint. grin.gif

 

jom

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What do you shoot with?

 

Well, a spray can...obviously.

 

Oh..wait.. you mean Ozwald. Sorry...never mind. grin.gif

 

jom

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Very nice Buffalo and a great picture also! What do you shoot with?

 

 

Thanks,

 

I use a Canon Digital Rebel with a Canon 100mm f2.8 macro lens.

 

I guess then your macro lens is seperate from the camera (add on)? Just curious. Can you explain a bit about the f2.8? This is the shutter speed right? 893scratchchin-thumb.gif

 

jom

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http://forums.collectors.com/include/uploadbox/viewfile.cfm?files=CanonCameraPhoto%2Ejpg

 

The camera body is an SLR so it will accept any Canon EF lens. The Canon 100 mm f2.8 macro is a really nice lens for shooting coins. "f2.8" refers to the lowest aperature setting and is often called the "speed" of the lens. Anything 2.8 or below is considered a pretty fast lens. The lower the aperature number the wider the aperature will spread on a lens, therefore a f2.8 can be shot in lower light than a f5.6 at the same shutter speed.

 

I shot the pic of the Canon with my old camera, a Sony Mavica F75. It's OK for shooting coins, but not anything like the Canon.

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I'm not sure of the term "SLR". Is that a film camera?

 

 

Yes,

 

SLR is a 35mm film camera.SLR refers to an advanced body with both automatic and manual functions. It accepts many different fixed and telephoto lenses. When digital cameras started to become advanced, they were eventually designed to accept the lenses of their film- SLR counterparts. The nomenclature was passed on to these camera bodies. I suppose that they could be called DSLRs to distinguish them, but that never happened.

 

My Canon EOS 1V (a film SLR) and my Canon Digital Rebel have functions and settings that are remarkably similar. The Digital Rebel will also accept any lens that works on the EOS 1V as well.

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The Digital Rebel will also accept any lens that works on the EOS 1V as well.

 

That must have been helpful. I had never got into photography at all until I bought a Nikon 950 a few back. For the most part for taking family photos but always had the intention of photoing my coins. I had a lot of trouble until another member pointed out using OTT bulbs for lighting. After that it's been pretty good. Here's my latest Buffalo, bought from BigD5. laugh.gif

 

5c-27p_small.jpg

 

jom

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Yes! That is a very pretty '27. Nice delicate peripheral toning and obvious luster. Great strike for the issue as well. cool.gif (BigD always handles great coins!)

 

Hoot

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Great analysis on that coin Hoot. It is from knowledgable collectors like yourself from which we can all learn.

 

Now your gonna get me collecting these darn things too! 893frustrated.gif

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(BigD always handles great coins!)

 

..and he knows to sell to ME first! HA! devil.gif

 

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Ozwald: Let us know how the grade comes out on your coin.

 

jom

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Great analysis on that coin Hoot. It is from knowledgable collectors like yourself from which we can all learn.

 

Now your gonna get me collecting these darn things too! 893frustrated.gif

 

An exergue is a small space below a principal device. On the reverse of the buffalo nickel, the plain that the bison is standing on creates a space below it into which FIVE CENTS is placed.

 

I sure hope that you start collecting these coins, as they are great! Perhaps you, me, and John Wihlborg can convene to capture jom, torture him mercilessly, and get his to stop spray painting his nickels. We might also get him to stop posting pictures of other people's nickels on his web site and on the boards. blush.gif

 

Hoot

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Perhaps you, me, and John Wihlborg can convene to capture jom, torture him mercilessly, and get his to stop spray painting his nickels. We might also get him to stop posting pictures of other people's nickels on his web site and on the boards.

 

Hoot,

 

You can count me in! Just let me know when and where you want to begin our hunt for that low down, no good, buffalo ruining, so called collector that goes by the name of Jom. sumo.gif

 

I'm all for using the most extreme forms of torture known to mankind on him to try to change his evil ways, but alas, I believe him to be incorrigible. I fear that the only way to keep him from continuing his unsavory activities would be to keep him locked up, away from both buffalo nickels and a computer forever. 893scratchchin-thumb.gif

 

The problem I see with that idea however is where would we keep him? I mean, I don’t want him. Do you? confused-smiley-013.gif

 

John

 

P.S. Oh, by the way, that is a very nice ‘29P buff you got there Jom. You low down, no good, buffalo ruining….Ah forget it. foreheadslap.gifdevil.gif

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