hold me, squeeze (grade posted) grade given by pcgs? and give me YOUR grade??

[michael]

here is a 1893-p 5 dollar gold piece

 

the coin looks the same in hand as in the photos but in hand sight seen the lustre is a tremendous cartwheel

 

and the coin has a straight grade at pcgs

 

please 2 important questions

 

1---what do you personally grade this coin?

 

2---- what did pcgs grade this coin??

 

could be/maybe??? 2 different answers

 

and give your reasons for both questions number 1 and 2 please

 

thanks for participating

 

GRADE POSTED AND YOU CAN SEE THE LUSTRE IN THE SLAB PHOTO AND IT IS WAY BETTER IN HAND SIGHT SEEN THANKS AGAIN FOR PARTICIPATING ALL GREAT RESPONSES!!

 

[michael]

I WILL post the full holder photo of slab

in a couple of days which gives everyone time to make

a post if they so desire

 

[jerseycat10]

Looks MS-61 to me.

 

Ill guess that PCGS assigned a grade of AU-55.

[MarkFeld]

I refuse to hold you or squeeze you, but my answers are:

 

62

63

[AnkurJ]

AU58

 

AU55

[rainbow roosie]

58

58

[lehigh96]

The obverse and reverse have vastly different quality.

 

 

I grade the coin MS62 averaging the obv/rev grade.

I guess that PCGS held the obverse more important and graded the coin MS60

[newprepper]

I refuse to hold you or squeeze you, but my answers are:

 

62

63

 

You would kill him with those guns of yours

[mikew148]

Obverse has taken the brunt of the hits. I'm going to say a trace of wear gives this one an AU 58 - I'll say PCGS said the same.

(although the reverse is making me want to go up the scale)

[coinman_23885]

62 (me)

62+ (PCGS)

[messydesk]

Back looks nice, front doesn't. I don't see wear, so 62.

[Crohnos01]

I would guess a 61 due to heavy contacts on the obverse.

 

Since you are sounding so happy, and wanting hugs and squeezes, I am going to guess PCGS gave you a 63.

[FILTHYHOARD]

My gut tells me MS63, and I always listen to my gut. Now where's that pie??

[James_OldeTowne]

1---what do you personally grade this coin? => MS-61

 

2---- what did pcgs grade this coin?? => MS-62

[ldhair]

The large image sure makes the marks stand out.

I'll go with 63 on both questions.

[Old Pueblo]

MS61 both

[$ilverHawk]

Me 62

 

PCGS 62

 

Reverse easy 63. Obverse 63 with a point lost for focal area hits. Overall 62.

 

Carl

[MarkFeld]

At the risk of putting my foot (or feet) in my mouth, based on the images provided, I just can't see an AU grade being assigned to the coin.

 

I don't detect any signs of wear, the luster is plenty strong enough, and nothing about the coin's appearance says AU.

 

For those of you who guessed AU, why?

 

Thanks.

[BillJones]

My personal grade would be MS-61 with a possible "+." The coin appears to be Mint State, and I'll take your word for it that it has full cartwheel luster. The piece has a lot of small marks on the obverse which really hold it down. I debated about calling it MS-62, but decided to call it 61 with the "+." The reverse looks like an MS-64, but the obverse really determines the grade, and the reverse comes along for the ride.

 

The PCGS grade? It should be the same as mine, but there have been lose periods when they have graded coins higher than I would have. I'll guess than they called it MS-63 because of the luster. They used to put up with a lot of marks if the coin had bright luster. Lately I've seen less of that.

[physics-fan3.14]

This one really requires a split grade. I'd call it 61/64.

 

This is a case where a really nice reverse can pull up the obverse grade a bit - if I had to guess PCGS called it a 62.

[cpm9ball]

Does anyone think it warrants a star for the reverse?

 

61*

[grip]

62(PCGS)

62

[Mark T]

This coin graded out between Ms 62 - Ms 63 .

Might as well split hairs :

I would give it a MS 62 + , I think PCGS gave it Ms 63.

[Catbert]

I grade it 62 and guess PCGS said 63. Love the reverse!

[rons]

Me 62 and pcgs 55. My 62 based solely on your cartwheel description. As previously stated the obverse has some hits but the reverse is a bit higher grade. IMO. Looking forward to the reveal next week.

[Raisethis2]

I'm in the MS 62 camp. The image size makes the obverse look scruffy but the reverse makes up a lot in my book.

 

 

[Coindude]

I feel it is a 62, I don't see any evidence of rub, but maybe PCGS called it a 61.

 

And thanks for the opportunity to win this gorgeous coin!!

[mikew148]

At the risk of putting my foot (or feet) in my mouth, based on the images provided, I just can't see an AU grade being assigned to the coin.

 

I don't detect any signs of wear, the luster is plenty strong enough, and nothing about the coin's appearance says AU.

 

For those of you who guessed AU, why?

 

Thanks. [/quote/]

 

Picture grading!

 

Slight rub in the hair to the right of Liberty's eye. Eagles beak and arrow heads look a little shiny, feathers above shield and tip of right wing also appear to have slight rubbing.

 

Given the heading of the OP "hold me , squeeze me" I think this coin is a little further, one way or the other, than what was expected. A 63 is not a huge price gain from an AU coin ( $300 in PCGS guide) so - could this coin have made the leap up to 64? I wouldn't think so but......"hold me, squeeze me" leads me to believe somethings going on here.

 

I'm going to stick with AU 58.

 

 

[cpm9ball]

At the risk of putting my foot (or feet) in my mouth, based on the images provided, I just can't see an AU grade being assigned to the coin.

 

I don't detect any signs of wear, the luster is plenty strong enough, and nothing about the coin's appearance says AU.

 

For those of you who guessed AU, why?

 

Thanks.

 

Picture grading!

 

Slight rub in the hair to the right of Liberty's eye. Eagles beak and arrow heads look a little shiny, feathers above shield and tip of right wing also appear to have slight rubbing.

 

Given the heading of the OP "hold me , squeeze me" I think this coin is a little further, one way or the other, than what was expected. A 63 is not a huge price gain from an AU coin ( $300 in PCGS guide) so - could this coin have made the leap up to 64? I wouldn't think so but......"hold me, squeeze me" leads me to believe somethings going on here.

 

I'm going to stick with AU 58.

 

 

Eliminate the "forward slash" bracketed in the end "quote" and it will work.

 

Chris

[mikew148]

At the risk of putting my foot (or feet) in my mouth, based on the images provided, I just can't see an AU grade being assigned to the coin.

 

I don't detect any signs of wear, the luster is plenty strong enough, and nothing about the coin's appearance says AU.

 

For those of you who guessed AU, why?

 

Thanks.

 

Picture grading!

 

Slight rub in the hair to the right of Liberty's eye. Eagles beak and arrow heads look a little shiny, feathers above shield and tip of right wing also appear to have slight rubbing.

 

Given the heading of the OP "hold me , squeeze me" I think this coin is a little further, one way or the other, than what was expected. A 63 is not a huge price gain from an AU coin ( $300 in PCGS guide) so - could this coin have made the leap up to 64? I wouldn't think so but......"hold me, squeeze me" leads me to believe somethings going on here.

 

I'm going to stick with AU 58.

 

 

Eliminate the "forward slash" bracketed in the end "quote" and it will work.

 

Chris

 

I hit the backspace bar too many times and took out the bracketed end quote. I put it back together but wasn't sure if it would work or not....now I know. Thanks