what do you think about proof two cent pieces 1864-1873? post your photos too!!

[michael]

i see that the pops are really quite low for these unusual coins

 

 

 

even as a type coin it is a really great coin! and really historical, the first coin to have with the motto >>>in God we trust<<< on the coin

 

everyone should own one and maybe with the high cost of the cent it would be better to eliminate the cent and make a new two cent coin

 

for me the sleepers are gem and higher proof coins that have great eye appeal brown or red brown with clean clear crisp mirrors and not dull

 

even the more available overall better looking later date proof two cents would be a really good coin to own if you can find one again in red brown or brown gem proof with decent mirrors and eye appeal this would be uncommon to find but with enough looking it can be accomplished

 

i would say in ngc/pcgs proof65 red brown a nice solid for the grade coin with little to no spots with above average eye appeal and great surfaces deep mirrors and good contrast between the devices and fields for around $800 and a proof65 brown coin as per the above qualifiers $700

 

would you be interested in a proof two cent piece for your collection?

 

do you currently have any proof two cent coins in your collection?

 

why are the proofs such orphan/unwanted coins?

 

any other comments?

 

 

michael

[michael]

wow no comments no photos no interest at all

 

what a sleeper forgotten little series

 

 

michael

[Bruceswar]

They are quite rare... So for the average collector they have probably never owned one or sometimes even seen one in person... just a thought

[EVillageProwler]

for me the sleepers are gem and higher proof coins that have great eye appeal brown or red brown with clean clear crisp mirrors and not dull

 

I would tend to disagree with part of what you wrote, or at least adjust it somewhat...

 

Certainly, PF's with crisp, clear mirrors are nice. But -- BUT -- I don't think BN pieces are sleepers unless they have attractive colors beyond an original brown coloration.

 

Likewise, I fancy RB pieces that still have a majority of original mint "red" bloom to it.

 

To me, however, the real sleepers are those specimens that still retain 95% (or better) of their original mint "red" color. PF or MS -- doesn't matter. Those are super tough to find.

 

(BTW, I write "red" because we all know that the color isn't actually red but a reddish-orange-bronze tint.)

 

One of my dream pieces is to own a fully original red 1864 SM specimen in PF64 or better.

 

EVP

[chinook]

I've been looking to add one to my type set for some time now, but I haven't found the "right" one yet. These coins in cameo really are very attractive and rare, and usually way more than my wallet will allow.

[EVillageProwler]

These coins in cameo really are very attractive and rare, and usually way more than my wallet will allow.

 

Actually, I haven't liked ANY of the ones I've seen that are designated cameo. I think this is because the the fields never can get black enough relative to the devices to have the kind of contrast that you can see in silver, gold and even some nickel specimens.

 

BTW, this holds true for me for the small cents too. I simply am more impressed with the contrast in the silver and gold coins.

 

EVP

[michael]

all great responses!!!

 

 

michael

[chinook]

This is a nice one 1865 cameo

[chinook]

heres another in the next heritage auction 1868 cameo

[michael]

wow chinook both are sweet coins

 

michael