Dumb question possibly....what is "Kraft envelope" toning?

[goose3]

saw it listed on an ebay auction. I'll link it below. I have never heard of this name for toning even with all the other names/variations.

 

Forgive me but it Is an ebay listing on just about the only things I look at on there anymore.

[sanmary]

I may be wrong, but I believe this could be the paper flips that were commonly used during this time.

[Beijim]

Kraft paper is the brown paper folks generally use for wrapping parcels. Evidently coin collectors used to store coins in kraft paper envelopes.

 

If anyone knows the derivation of the name, that would be an interesting tidbit.

 

Beijim

 

[TomB]

Kraft envelope toning is a generic term applied by many to any type of toning that looks natural, old and difficult to categorize with any specificity. What many are really trying to say is that they believe the toning to be real but that they cannot tell you what type of holder or environment caused it outside of being able to tell you that it was likely caused by paper proximity. The generally older, manila style 2x2 paper holders are termed Kraft envelopes.

 

There is one specific type of toning, I believe, that is widely accepted as being caused by Kraft envelopes and that is the toning seen on many attractive proof Indian Head cents. Quite a few of these were stored in this environment for long periods of time and they emerged with the various toning schemes seen today.

[Beijim]

Excellent info, Tom - thanks.

 

Beijim

 

[goose3]

Tom when you speak of the Proof indians are you speaking of the "PURPLES" that are occasionally encountered??

 

 

what's your take on the FE that I linked?

[TomB]

The color of that FE does not bother me at all. There are a few spots on the coin where I wonder if something were removed or if something were otherwise "on" the coin, but, without seeing it in person I really could not tell you what was going on there.

[James_OldeTowne]

Goose it's not a dumb question at all. Whereas album toning usually produces concentric rings of tone, "Kraft envelope" toning is usually mottled and indistinct. Not necessarily unattractive, but at it's worst, it can be downright ugly. At it's best, it can produce some seriously beautiful colors and patterns.

 

Here's a dollar I've posted before (it's long sold) with "envelope" toning:

 

(JUMBO IMAGE)

 

Kraft envelopes were popular at one time (and still are with old-time collectors) because they were cheap. Hence, many old collections had coins sitting in the envelopes for many decades.

 

James

[goose3]

Thanks guys for the info.

 

I found that FE somewhat attractive.

 

Tom I think (without re-reading the listing again) says that some of the paper has(d) adhered to the coin.