1 hour ago, LeonK291 said:

nothing fancy

Fancy is over-rated! Go for the bizarre! 

On 6/14/2021 at 9:31 PM, LeonK291 said:

I know it is very busy right now, but I was wondering how long most have to wait til their subs are opened?

I sent a few in towards the beginning of May and still haven't been uploaded to the submission tracking tab yet. Been received, but nothing else. I am definitely not complaining, just curious.

 

 

 

I can't speak to more recent times but I sent in some coins in early March and they shipped back pretty much exactly when the turnaround times predicted, measure from the time they were delivered, not from when they were entered- same as they say. They were on time even though a coin went to NCS to residue removal.

I had a PMG submission that was due based on turnaround times to clear next week and it cleared/ shipped today.

So in my (admittedly limited) experience they are meeting or beating advertised times.

On 6/15/2021 at 9:21 AM, gradeacoins said:

Yep mine was delivered the same day as yours and still not scanned in yet either. Hopefully soon! Thanks for asking

Mine is now showing as having been delivered with the tool too, so hopefully yours too.

Thank you!

13 minutes ago, Coinbuf said:

Give them to Ben for an hour or so and then report back.  

Oh... unkind. I don't like this idea. 

Edit: Shandy says, for a proper test, we should give it to Sam.

15 minutes ago, VKurtB said:

I was guessing the absence of scratches, but that’s entirely too empirical. 

The non-scratch resistant ones definitely seem to get scratched reliably but I don't know how good the scratch resistant ones really are at living up to their names yet.

On 6/12/2021 at 12:37 PM, Coinbuf said:

I did a quick search but did not find any threads on this so apologies if it has been asked before.  But is there any way to visually tell a scratch resistant holder from a regular holder in a photo?

I'd love to know the answer to this myself - having just gotten 8 gold coins back in scratch resistant holders I didn't see any differences off-hand so I'm guessing either the answer is "no" or it's subtle. 

USPS Tracking: 9405503699300403140739

USPS says this package was delivered a week ago but your system says you haven't scanned it yet...

Are you backed up or do I need to file a claim / trace with USPS?

5 hours ago, Just Bob said:

but what matters is what coins actually sell for.

And we've all seen things sit unsold for years until someone finds a sucker or finally decides to accept what the thing is really worth. 

1 hour ago, JT2 said:

hahahhahahaah this is so funny............I used tracking and priority shipping for my IRS check.........the post office still shows it hasnt been delevered after three weeks.  However the check was cashed more than two weeks ago..........   i wonder if they will refund me the prioroty shipping rate?

I had a PMG submission recently that USPS was still saying was at the PO waiting to be picked up and PMG has it marked a received and in the system.

1 minute ago, Hoghead515 said:

I didn't know that. I figured they'd show pry marks and cut marks where people try to open them. I've never opened any up before. Was just assuming. It's good to know I'm wrong tho.  Learned something new. Always happy to learn. 

 

I think it's always still a good idea to know who you're buying from and know that you're dealing with someone reputable, even if its a slab coin, if you're buying coins especially on the high end. Slabs can be tampered with if you're good. I've seen and heard of people being able to split them, and slabs (and stickers) can be faked.

Just now, Hoghead515 said:

You can see glue in them when you look closely. I don't really know cause I've not broken any apart but I'd think you would see all kinds of damage on them if someone tampered with them. Because they seal them pretty good just by looking at the ones I've had slabbed. There's gobs around them in certain places that looks like someone glued them. 

I've definitely seen some stuff on the edges of these slabs.

I would be shocked if NGC ever used glue because glue can off-gas, including into the holder, which could damage, discolor, or corrode a coin.

NGC refers to "Sonically Sealing," which others have taken as a reference to sealing the slab with ultrasonic welding:

https://science.howstuffworks.com/ultrasonic-welding.htm

Rub your hands together rapidly. Notice anything? They warmed up, right? If you take a hammer and pound a metal surface rapidly and repeatedly, you will find that the place where the hammer strikes the metal warms up, too. In both these examples, the heat is due to friction. Now imagine rubbing your hands or pounding that hammer thousands of times per second. The frictional heat generated can raise the temperature significantly in a very short time. Basically, high-frequency sound (ultrasound) causes rapid vibrations within the materials to be welded. The vibrations cause the materials to rub against each other and the friction raises the temperature at the surfaces in contact. This rapid frictional heat is what sets the conditions for the materials to bind together.

38 minutes ago, Brian Mclendon said:

I just got in like 20 suspect ngc cases I examine them close they were opened and resealed I don't care what everyone think it's glue not.plastic beware buyers seems to.ne older ngc cases 

Sooo…. you have revived an 18 year old thread to complain that you have not 1 but 20 slabs you claim have been tampered with and... no pictures? You're not going to try to back this up?

Why are there never pictures when people claim these things?!? The first post from this thread - nearly 18.5 years ago - asks for pictures of the supposedly bogus / tampered slab.

On 5/24/2021 at 3:39 PM, LISA B said:

Dear Alex,

Since you didn't write EX on all sides of the box, it will be opened in order by the day it was delivered to us.  We are currently opening the mail that was delivered to us on April 26th.  Once it is opened you the turn time will be correct.

Thank you,

Lisa

Lisa, do you think in might be helpful to add this information to the notes in bold that are on the services and fees page so that people are more likely to see it? Is there any way this information could be posted on the submission page that collector's society members use to submit coins - like having a warning or something pop up when you pick the "express" tier? Like, when I was working on something for PMG it warned me that I could be charged for not listing a catalog number when I left that blank on a line item.

Just throwing this out there to try to think of ways to put the information out there more - because I wouldn't have known this myself without stumbling on it on the boards here.

NGC Services and Fees | NGC (ngccoin.com)

On 5/21/2021 at 9:49 AM, Zorex said:

I sent coins to NGC on the 11th using USPS but unfortunately I lost the reciept with the tracking... Last time I sent coins it was only a few days before I got a confirmation email that they have my coin. Now it's been 8 days since I sent this package and still no word. I've been pretty worried and checking my email frequently hoping for NGC to pop up. If it helps, I did buy insurance on the coins but I really would hate to lose them.

Without the tracking number you can't use NGC's tool to confirm delivery, so you're likely to be stuck for the next 3-4 weeks just waiting to see if they show up in the system .Sorry. 

Next time don't lose that tracking number!

On 5/20/2021 at 3:39 PM, RWB said:

Comments on another thread got me to wondering if there is a reasonable expectation that coin sellers or TPGs be truthful in all respects?

Thoughts?

I would hope and expect a seller would not outright lie. That said, I also don't expect people to volunteer information that isn't helpful to them. I also naturally am a little more suspect of any statement of anyone trying to get money from me for any reason. 

1 hour ago, World Colonial said:

... adjusted for future purchasing power/inflation.  

Yeah... that's the rub, isn't it?

2 hours ago, Bunnygin said:

Why are some of the prices on my coins missing?  I see blanks in the value of my coins and they are NGC coins.... what is the reason for this?

They may just not have a value for it in the price guide they use. There may just not be enough sale records for that coin to assign a market value.

Looks like they already did it. Thanks! Gotta love same-day resolution!  

Thank you, Ali!

4 hours ago, Alex in PA. said:

Coin World

2021 Morgan and 2021 Peace silver dollars may become annual series

• By Paul Gilkes , Coin World
• Published: May 7, 2021, 7 AM

Because that's what the world and the US needs... another annual NCLT issue.

22 hours ago, physics-fan3.14 said:

Nope, I think the program is dumb. 

If you want a Morgan or Peace, why not just buy a real one? 

Would be a whole lot cheaper from what I understand.

12 minutes ago, Brian ab said:

I just started collecting mint error us coins an notes I got this 20 in change about 2 months ago an been looking for anything that can tell me what kind of error this is an value any help will be great thanks

I can understand your confusion but there's a very big "split household" thing with NGC (coins) and PMG (notes). You'll probably get a better response on the PMG side: https://www.pmgnotes.com/boards/

These are not in any way intended to circulate so I wouldn't want them in a type set for circulating coins. They're NCLT. Only include them if you intend to add silver eagles and other NCLT to the type set (please don't).