Revenant

Current estimated wait times for each tier are listed on the NGC website.

How long it takes to get to them in the mail is mostly decided by your shipping choices.

I think the seller / person with the coin registered to them gets something like a week or two to respond if they aren't willing to transfer for whatever reason. I can't remember what it was exactly - it has been too long since I had this happen. If they don't contest it the coin transfers automatically. A month is way too long to wait so they must have contested it or something went wrong.

12 hours ago, kbbpll said:

Gawd, look at the design on the "half dol." side. The left half of the shield is one design, and the right half another design. And the Latin says "no country dressed faith". No wonder they lost.

It's just not a good reproduction of... Anything.

9 hours ago, jgrinz said:

Yeah  .. interesting thought though / Was thinking holder and not the coin  ahhaahah

 

Well... I guess a fake slab reflects on the likelihood of the coin being real (or accurately graded, so it's worth considering, even if the coin looks real.

I imagine someone could really clean up putting real MS63s in fake slabs that say MS66 or MS67.

1 hour ago, jgrinz said:

Found it 

1989 Gen 2.1 - Scarce - Used from Oct-Dec 1989

Well, guess that narrows down for you when it was graded. Lol

I wish NGC made it publicly available when a coin was graded for all coins and not just for the coppers where guarantee expires after 10 years.

So, probably, yes. It is probably real. But its is not going to be valuable.

33 minutes ago, Just Bob said:

And, those egg-stealing, chicken-killing, disease-carrying, garbage-strewing vermin deserved to get hit with that die pair - or a load of buckshot.

Indeed! Just so!

Traditionally "first strike" meant it was one of the first coins struck with a die pair - these usually look better and have better strikes than coins struck with late-life dies.

It became a marketing gimmick, which got the TPGs sued if I remember right, and NGC stopped using it in 2006 and adopted "Early release" and "First Day of Issue."

You don't need a microscope for hunting key dates. Any "error" or manufacturing flaw that you need a microscope for will be within tolerance and not something NGC will attribute or something an error collector will pay for.

Such a tool might be helpful for counterfeit detection and you might just find it fun to play with. But you really shouldn't need one unless you're getting on a bit and the visual acuity ain't what it was (or you just have bad vision like my wife or cornea damage like me).

On 3/6/2020 at 5:55 PM, Truly Clean said:

Thanks Bob and Moxie.  They are both AU58 which I was surprised.  I think the PCGS definitely has substantially more marks.  I just wanted to see if there was something I was missing due to my lack of experience. If anything I thought PCGS was slightly more conservative than NGC?  In this case (with the marks) it doesn't seem subjective imo.

AU58 just means it has slight wear on the high points so it's no longer MS. The number of bag marks gets a lot less important when you're not talking about MS grades. In circulated grades it's more about the level of wear and how much detail survives.

On 3/6/2020 at 5:26 PM, Truly Clean said:

Do you think the coloration is due to the lighting?

Quite possible. The white balance setting on the camera / picture may be slightly off too... And the coin might be a little yellow.

On 3/7/2020 at 3:19 PM, BlakeEik said:

I just received my plaque for the 2019 registry awards, and I am very appreciative for the quality of the award and the efforts put forth to send it.  Thank you, NGC.

They were faster than I've ever seen before this year. Very impressive!

I can't really comment on the price being good or not but props to the seller for including so many sharp, clear details shots.

13 hours ago, BlakeEik said:

Whoa! I think this claim may be a little misleading. There are many sets where NO ONE has been able to complete 100%, let alone the "average" collector.  But that is part of the competition, right?

I think we need to acknowledge a few things here.

- Some categories have existed since the registry was created about 17 years ago while some new World categories are just months old. A 10-17 year old category never having a 100% complete set might indicate that it's hard to do - might. I 3 month old category never having a complete set is meaningless.

- The fact that no one has is no indication that it isn't doable.

- The fact that a set isn't on the registry doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

We also have to wonder who NGC imagines the "average" collector to be and we don't know what time frame they'd consider reasonable for accomplishing the task - "Sure. You can do it. It'll take 20 years but you can do it."

9 minutes ago, Just Bob said:

 I don't think any of that is real. I also think any doubling that is actually present is die deterioration or strike doubling.

I do think there is a little something real there, but I agree it isn't enough. NGC says if it isn't enough to see under 5x they don't do it per the snip I shared. The photos and size he's showing is more than 5x and we're still debating if it's a trick of the light.

It does look like there is some doubling in the 1995 that is consistent with a 1995 DDO. 

I think this might hold the answer though:

https://www.ngccoin.com/variety-plus/what-is-a-variety/

3 hours ago, RWB said:

Ashley -

The follow-up question is, of course, "Will anything be done to implement the suggestions?" Good managers have a plan. If this part of MCM is important to the plan's goals and objectives, then management will take aggressive corrective action. If nothing happens, it means the materials are just filler, and not important to the company. It might also suggest management has no meaningful plan. This is also known as "Management Road-Kill," or "Cubicle Stew."

[The take-away for any employee connected with such a "road kill" product is to search for a new employer - fast.]

It's a little interesting sometimes to run upon against the idea of what department "owns" an asset, resource or job.

At my job, Sales and Marketing owns the website and controls things like branding, logos, etc. But... Engineering owns the technical manuals to our products, so engineering hast to update the manual when marketing changes things, and the Consultancy owns the templates for our reports and proposals.

On 2/28/2020 at 4:00 PM, Maribeth - NGC Admin said:

We aim to make 100% completion of any registry set attainable for our average collector. 

This brings a thought / question to mind for me. I wonder what fraction of registry categories / set types have never had a 100% complete set in them. I would imagine that most US categories have had or currently do have 100% complete sets - with the exception of categories like the 1932 mint set, with that insanely hard to get double eagle (which, honestly, should probably be non-competitive based on the reasoning you provided). My family's 86% complete set is about as good as it gets there. In World categories I'd expect 100% complete sets to be much more uncommon except in some popular categories like the British Sovereigns, the French 20F coins, etc.

In the Netherlands 10G set I collect, to my knowledge, my set is the most complete set that has ever existed in the category and sits at 63% complete - I hope I can soon bring that up to 72%. The most complete set I'm aware of other than mine was about 36% complete.

7 hours ago, kbbpll said:

 because I know what my disposable income is.

This. Coins are bought with fun money and not relied on as an asset with me.

I'm using my tax refund and bonus to pay down debt.

4 hours ago, RWB said:

MCMAshley -

A kindly suggestion or two. 1) Pay one of the employees to fact-check every article; 2) Pay an outside editor to review and edit all the articles after they have been fact-checked. (I strongly recommend PenUltimate Editorial Services.)

Some of it at least could be resolved by internal proofing and review (and a spell check by MS Word). I publish articles online, at symposia and the like and hardly anything I write goes out without being read by two others in the company. Some things still slip through but it's a lot less.

I had an LG G4 for a while too! I liked it. When it died I replaced it with a G6 about 2 years ago. At the time the G6 was still considered an old model and they'd just slashed the price to make it more appealing against the latest Galaxy. The auto camera on the G6 leaves a lot to be desired IMO.

 I wouldn't mind upping to a G8 or G9 eventually but the prices for the new ones are silly.

3 hours ago, World Colonial said:

Per the above post, it has been going on for so long that it's considered "normal".  I date the origin to August 13, 1982 and "lift off" to either April 20, 1994 or November, 1994.

If you want to talk about "normalization." I was born in 1986. Try living your entire life in this regime!

19 hours ago, JKK said:

There's an arclike scratch on the obverse around 10:00 that might get it a details-damaged grade, but it also looks like it might be on the plastic surface of an airtite (except that the coin appears to be out of holder completely). Looks like about VF. I am not sure that having it graded would raise its value much if it slabbed (I'm not expert on that).

People like busties, though. My Coin Values mag says $120 for VF, and that's usually about 35% high and assumes it's not damaged. Dealer would probably give you $40-50, sell it for $95-110,  would be my guess.

I recently saw one at a local dealer in 30/35 (graded by NGC) for about $90.

54 minutes ago, World Colonial said:

I'm with you except that I consider the current environment the biggest bubble in history. 

I agree, but I find people tend to dismiss this view. I think when the bubble pops it will be very very bad but I'm not convinced this is the end yet. There's still too much optimism. That 1300 point dead cat bounce yesterday shows that plenty of people still want to believe and with easing this could yet continue 3, 5 or 10 more years.