Deiter

@GBrad I paid 220$ for it in an auction from live auctioneers when I was just getting started. I am now making my way through the 100+ coins that I purchased to separate the wheat from the chaff. luckily, early on I took advice from a dealer to only buy NGC/PCGS slabs for 80% of them. thanks for the help guys.

Good morning Gang, as I learn to hone my eye I just want to confirm that I’m correctly identified symptoms of tampering. It wasn’t easy to get pics that actually show these lines as they are very faint amd only show at a certain angle against the light. are the vertical lines running straight down over reverse of this 1881s classic wizzing? would this get a “cleaned” grade at NGC? the SEGS slab holding this baby has her listed as MS66 DMPL. what would you grade it if based on the reverse alone ? ( I know that’s not a thing btw) What would NGC grade it? more straight forward, what is the score of the reverse of this coin 1881s in your opinion? im very grateful for this forum. Thanks to all you vets who make it such a great resource for new guys like me. best, Deiter

but back to my original point, intuitively I feel they are doing SOMETHING to their coins, I just cant figure out what.

No negative comments from me because the coins I’ve purchased look great to my amateur eyes! I probably know just enough to be dangerous (to myself) at this stage but the coins I received from them look great in my estimation. I will pull them out and post some pics here and let a jury of my new friends decide. Give me a day and I’ll post them here

I think my screenshot of the selling prices of the coins in my photos gives us the definitive answer to this one! I appreciate your thoughts especially @gmarguli. Anybody revising that many feedback reviews has something to hide, or protect rather… I guess it’s a damn good business selling raw coins “at a discount” to slabbed prices. These guys obviously are pro’s and would know enough to send in a coin they felt would grade out instead of offering an opportunity to random bidders on eBay. I would be curious to get your take ( anyone’s take) on a particular seller on eBay called “ CanyonCity_coin”… Admittedly, I have purchased some of their coins. They claim to have access to full (unopened)bank bags of Morgan’s, have 100% positive feedback, and offer returns. they do A LOT of volume and often rare mint issues come up for auction. my question is… what are they doing to their coins? They all have a very distinctive “look” and you can see that same “ look” on some of the slabbed coins they also offer. Is there any way possible that they are dipping the coins in a way that gives them natural luster and cartwheel effect? Is there any chance they would unselfishly offer up a raw 1884s ms state Morgan to the highest bidder or is this the same game that they “know” they coin will grade lower/get a details grade/ be worth less in reality than what they are taking in from the auction selling it raw? here are a few pics of their listings to give a visual for anyone that doesn’t use eBay…

That makes enough sense for me. Thank you Coinbuf!

Okay guys, here’s a question that should provoke some interesting comments… As a newbie can someone please explain to me the eBay phenomenon? aka- literally two blurry photos taken with some kind of filter I can’t even begin to describe for thousands of dollars? I understand key dates and low mint dates as the two highly sought after in the attached picture… but isn’t it risky to bid thousands on a coin you can’t first hold in your hand ( or even see clearly for that matter?) Do people just have this kind of cash to blow on a gamble or does it make sense ( let’s pretend we are the high bidder of both of these auctions, the 1884s & the 1892 cc) and I’m just missing something here? would you guys say these winning bids got a ms 55 to 58 coin at NGC or is there a better chance Megan Fox invites me over for a late night drink?

Much appreciated, all. I think majority stands… open it up, cross my fingers and send it in raw. To be continued….

Thank you for that Mohawk. I didn’t consider the foam gasket but that makes a lot of sense bc this coin was part of a larger group of NNC slabs that all had almost identical toning. Much appreciated.

And here is the coin in the slab with the questionable from the auction… these pics are not capturing what looks most questionable to me, especially in the fields of the reverse. Let me keep trying to get the right pic.

Here you go….

Hey guys! I’ve never been a part of a forum either thanks for the responses!! Going to get the coin out now and take some pics for ya’ll. Give me 10 mins and I’ll have them posted. Many thanks !

Hello, this is my first post so please forgive me if this is an inappropriate question… I have a 1882 o/s I’d like to send in for grading… it is currently in a slab from another company. The coin looks very good to my amateur eyeballs but I’d like the opinion of the masses before I spend time and money sending it in for grading if people feel it has obvious flaws that I am not privy to. so I guess my question is… am I allowed to post pics of this coin and ask for feedback from fellow collectors? many thanks, JD