Woods020

In case you didn't know, here are some of the signs you want to look for. The lines like these are almost always cleaning. People have the misconception that if they are light in the cleaning no one will know, and that is entirely not true. A soft q tip will leave noticeable signs on a metal coin if you know what to look for.

Well darn it was the only one I could kind of make out. These posts get more and more confusing. Now we have other people posting random pics in the mix.

It actually goes to the fundamental issue you have, and that drives serious collectors nuts. Just because someone says something does not make it true This is particularly true of random web pages and "error" coin resources. I have a website and I could easily say the actual correct spelling is Nikle. Would that make it true? Same with what some random person writes about a coin. This is a very basic concept that I really think could change your life. And make ours better because you would stop with the cr@p no one cares about other than you.

Unfortunately Scott even though you didn't believe our opinions, you got the one that matters to your submission already. DWLange who responded works at NGC, and may be the person looking at your coin. If he said plated it will come back from NGC as plated. You don't even have to wait on the inevitable response now. I can understand taking a small gamble, but I really wish you had saved your money on this one.

As compared to the brain trust in the DC general area? I wouldn't be so quick to throw rocks at the south when you live in the quintessential glass house.

Is this what you are thinking is an S mint mark?

A dealer from the area. I am blanking on his name. But he calls himself central Alabama coin club or something. Nice guy.

Yes I would be. You can PM me specifics and your asking price

Well done sir! I have a weakness for these, and this is a beauty.

Just remember your chances of hitting it big with coins is as or more statistically unlikely as it is at the casinos. Returns from coins come from having a good eye, patience and persistence.

I vote electrical box knock out. I see them in nickels from time to time.

I wonder how many actually believe the news that’s it’s nothing special vs how many say a few four letter words about NGC and send it elsewhere. The fantasies are costing people a lot of money before they wise up. That crowd of folks is radical in their beliefs.

I haven’t taken decent photos of this one. Just threw it in my keep pile in the safe. I don’t see a lot of colorfully toned mercs.

Getting back to the ANA question I think it’s a very important one. And not one easy for them to tackle. However if they are to remain relevant, which I sincerely hope they do, they have to stay up to date with current collectors. I’m not saying that they need to abandon sound numismatics in any way, but to expand the use to the modern collector. A big part of that is online. I am willing to bet that more coins change hands on a given day from either eBay, Facebook and Instagram individually than all brick and mortar shops combined. And the scary thing is it’s mostly collectors that don’t have a clue. The ANA needs to figure out how they can better educate new collectors on these new platforms. Like it or not it’s the future of the hobby. So they need to adapt and hopefully create smarter online collectors. And to be honest I don’t know that they are equipped. It’s mostly a bunch of very smart and seasoned numismatists that just so happen to be old men. No dig in any way but factual. They don’t know what the current market is like or how to adapt. Has the ANA done any market research? In my world we live by it. We won’t pick the color our drugs name has on the label until three or four focus groups have weighed in. Perhaps the ANA needs to do some of that research and see where the newer collectors are, where are their gaps, and then determine how they can remain relevant and help the hobby. I would be willing to bet atleast 50% of collectors who started in the last 3-5 years know nothing about ANA. And for what it’s worth I sincerely hope they do because I think they are needed.

I think in the next year or so I’m making my way North to the huntsvillle/Madison area. If I do I will sure become a member. There are no local clubs that I am aware of near me in Tuscaloosa. Gadsden and the one you are in are the only active ones I am aware of around here.

If I run across the 75th for free in the future I’ll send it to you. I have a bunch of hardbacks too.

I will have to buy you lunch one day and meet at summer fun. Table assignments haven't been made yet but I will be around somewhere.

Agreed. I think true mint errors are an interesting part of numismatics, and I have nothing but respect for those specialists. What I cannot stand is the current madness around superficial or concocted errors. All the state quarters with cutesy names with youtube videos pumping up their rarity for example. They turn a simple small die break that is just a common as dirt occurrence into the spectacular. If they would look at dimes for the last few years they would have a heart attack and think they hit the jackpot because it seems the majority have die breaks. A true error specialist would also laugh at that. What bothers me most is the vim and vigor that this group of new collectors believes in the validity. I really think it is very harmful to this hobby. If they want to collect errors, then collect errors. This is poised to turn away a bunch of collectors from the hobby when reality sets in, and I think we have a duty to at least educate them. If that is what they want to do fine, but it should be done from a place of knowledge and understanding not delusions of grandeur. This impaired proof that was likely found in circulation that started this thread is a prime example. Instead it has to become a strike through or a die scratch. Logically the two things can not even be possibilities. Why do so many insist on making the mundane rare in some way? I just don't get it.

This was a very generous giveaway. I would not have guessed whizzed by these pics myself, but we all know pics are difficult to work from. The surfaces do not appear that smooth to me. This is where having the coin in hand to see the cartwheel, or lack thereof, would be very helpful.Regardless a nice coin for a giveaway.

You need to post some decent pics and this can probably be resolved very quickly. I assume you post this at an angle to enjoy some debate. It’s really not needed. And if you can’t tell for yourself if a coin is damaged you may be in the wrong hobby. No consulting needed for that. The errorist, it would stand to reason, would know errors fairly well.

I have been working with OCR (optical character recognition) tech for atleast 10 years now. We use it a lot for data entry of our high volume standardized forms. It wouldn’t be a leap at all for the coins to be imaged and logic to be created to grade them. I’m sure it could count the marks, locations of the marks, etc and make deductions. Where I haven’t seen it be possible would be the strength of strike or eye appeal as others have said. Now I’m not on the cutting edge of tech by any means so it may exist. But the standard OCR stuff wouldn’t be able to give opinions unless it was a programmable algorithm, which I don’t see for certain things.