Henri Charriere

The owl more than makes up for the entire lot.

Oh, @Ashleigh S ! How nice of you to drop in! Malheureusement, I do not think you'll get an answer to your question about an Italian Botticelli 10-cent coin on a five year-old thread devoted to French 20-francs gold roosters. However, as long as you're here, and mindful of my well-earned reputation for being an opportunist, I should like to ask you, with your response kept in the strictest confidence, about your experiences at Rosemont, buying, selling, etc. Thank you for honoring me with your presence on the Rooster thread. You can put the Tommy gun down. We are all friends here. All thr best!

Very lovely surface preservation suggesting, while technically in circulation, it was blessed with a succession of stewards who took good care of it. Any assertion of erosion, deterioration or doubling is as distracting as white noise. Appreciate the coin for its uncommon attributes.

In all fairness, this describes me to a T. Don't be afraid to use my name; everybody else does, and the thing of it is, they're right!

My ill-informed, uneducated guess is an attempt was made to alter the date of a copper cent but so many hamds were involved that the only way to play it off was to mutilate features of the rest of the coin to lend the query legitimacy. Malheureusement, the attempt to provide a smidgen of authenticity failed spectacularly. Grade was never a consideration. Date was. Sho'nuff! Sho'nuff!

There it is. Pre-1965, silver melt value. Post 1964, face value. This of course does not include the 1937-S which stands in a class by itself with numismatic value. ***

Too late, my friend, @Just Bob just ordered the OP to ignore the first three posts which includes my own. And here you are, just as curious as I was, restating it. Sheesh!

Fine. All well and good, but you didn't answered the OP's question.

🐓 : Any feelings about this one? It's 42 years old. It's got front-end damage on IGWT which has been worn down smooth. Q.A.: It's time-barred by the Statute of Limitations. If the President is inclined to award it a reprieve, he may. That's what Executive clemency is for. But, if I may, I should like to ask the OP a question of my own; setting aside the matter of silver melt value, what should this coin be worth -- and why?

E D I T: The ping on my phone at 0444 hours today, informed me the package containing the long-awaited 1913 French 20-francs gold rooster, PCGS MS-67 (FDC MS-65 to MS-70) has been shipped from Paris. Three things that differentiate me from the average collector: I paid for the coin in USD with enough money to pay conversion costs to €uros; I am not concerned with tracking; they can use a dirigible or carrier pigeon for all I care; and it does not matter to me if I receive it or not! I sent a nice sum of money thru the mail which evaded detection and was advised it had been received. I know of no one who would have done the same. (I worked in shipping once. I know exactly what I would need to get an object from point A to point B, without incident). I was elated. I will take cell pictures of the slab. If they fail to meet my standard for display to a wider studio audience, I know exactly where to take it within walking distance of my home, without being accosted by an army of zombies. That will conclude my collection for now. If another solid grade shows up minus an a +, a ++, ☆ or other enhancement, I will cross that bridge when I come to it. I generally don't track shipments. Very often, I am notified when the article is placed in my mailbox, via e-mail. Special Note to @The Neophyte Numismatist.... It gives me great pleasure to inform you your "glorious day" is rapidly drawing nigh. I encourage every member, irrespective of series collected, to view your collection of Braided Half-Cents on the Set Registry. You did your due diligence, discovered a series that seemed to have been overlooked, and got in on the ground floor. Well done. Very well done! 🐓

I vociferously object to that characterization! Are you implying I have competition -- or worse, am a has-been? No other member has been BANNED PERMANENTLY -- on three separate occasions. I may not be as erudite as some of you, but please don't arbitrarily take my rank and re-assign it to another member. One insurmountable problem is @Coinbuf has likely amassed one of the finest Set Registries of Lincoln Head Cents in at least the last millennium. I cannot challenge him. For starters, I only have one good leg. I like Mike. He may not have a chopper, but he gets around. I would take a bullet for him, just for drill. I was unaware any 1969 LHC bore signs of die-doubling. It is a very fine example.. As to the misunderstanding between Messrs. @Coinbuf and @Mike Meenderink I am afraid I am not smart enough to know who's right and who's wrong.

Very nicely put.

Seriously, you have extensive lacerations between the bottom of the right wheat stalk and the rim -- with a sliver of metal overlaying the lower extremity of the stall, and you are mesmerized by both shadow and substance in the TZ. I decree this to be an '09-S, missing VDB.

The 2 took the brunt of the hit. The 9 and 0 appear flattened. Localized collateral damage. No evidence of any mint mark.

Me agree. Weight loss would be expected for metal that serves a utilitarian function in circulation.

Q.A.: Time-barred by the Statute of Limitations. 🐓 : Me thinks he just doesn't want to admit he is losing his eyesight. Nice coin!

Quite frankly, no one here can possibly answer your question without needing some basic information. I would need your age, years of formal schooling and employment, financial goals, whether you are single, married or married with children. Your assets and liabilities -- your short- and long-term goals. Stacking is the easy part. You can start with the ordinary round or bar and amass your accumulation regularly. Some are one-way stackers. They buy, buy, and buy, by the by and by. They never sell. Others are fanatic. They consult a number of sources, come to a determination, and buy low and sell high. Only problem is the people you rely on for that information are not as intimately familiar with all the variables as they should be. I placed my faith in universally recognized and accepted hallmarks. The only thing my modest silver holdings shared in common was fineness: all .999. You get what you can afford. It stands to reason generic silver will be cheaper (closer to spot) but what if that may prove to be a problem. Less problematic, but costing more are the well-known brands. APMEX seems to enjoy a good reputation. But again, a small-scale hoarder cannot be compared with a Blue Whale with unlimited resources and a staff to manage his portfolio. I hope member @GoldFinger1969 weighs in on this. There are other members who do this routinely as a matter of business. My idea of stacking is limited to how much I can physically amass. How many 1-ounce silver coins equal a troy ounce of gold? What would you rather have: a massive, bulky, Monster Box of ASEs or one or two kilo bars of gold? That's why only you can answer your question. Others are free to weigh in, and many will, but each of their individual situations may differ radically from yours. Capiche?

As regarding this 1936 Cent, you may wish to check out a related Topic unspooling presently on the "1936 Canadian Dot Cent Die-Capped Mint thread," that features an allegeded counterfeit example.

🐓: Hey, Q! The old CC Morgan GSA hoard was revived just a few days ago after a 3-year drought! Q.A.: By a Newbie, no doubt. We're In Like Flint. This thread ranks as one of the Greatest Of All Time! Check out all the old-timers! It's a virtual Who's Who on the NGC CHAT Boards... Getting Back on Track, I agree with GF1969's assertion completely. My approach was completely by happenstance. If I didn't elect to have the old hip replacement redone, I wouldn't have been bed-bound and if I weren't confined to bed, it never would have occurred to me to surf the web -- and develop a curiosity over the coins I once had 50 years ago. I stumbled over a gold Rooster and the rest, as they say, is history. Plenty of back-story. Here's a provocative assertion: how well you proceed on your Set Registry depends on the search engine you use. [If you use DuckDuckGo to look for coins overseas, you're a dead duck.] You have to be daring, creative, and resourceful. Not sure if this is applicable to the GSA Hoard but surely there must be a go-to site for someone specializing in them. And as far as profits go, you have to be IN it to WIN it. This is not a hit-and-run hobby. I suppose I am luckier than most because I was retired, had the time, resources, inclination -- and daring, to throw all caution to the wind. Self-taught. Spot gold was nowhere near what it was when I dove back into collecting 5 years ago. I don't know if the GSA CC MORGAN HOARD will go up down or sideways, but I believe it safe to say certain subsets of raw coins will diminish over time while certifications will increase as time goes by. The number of GSA CC's are known. The will not increase in number. I assume most are spoken for but what do I know. Sometimes it is good to go back and reconsider your position as formerly recorded with recent events.

Any chance your brother-in-law would post a picture of the vintage Indian bike he got from you for all those error coins you traded him for it? 🤣 If some guy shows up wearing a PM5000 T-shirt inquiring about the 1936 Dot, tell him you sold it to Quintus from East Harlem. No way he'd put his life on the line with all these psychos to destroy a cent.

No, long story short, all the Double Eagles were bright, shiny and new and by Morgan I am guessing you mean the Big Bird coins with PEACE at the bottom, but quite frankly it was Lincoln's doctored autopsy visage on the funereal black surface of what turned out to be a newer cent that caught my eye. I may be new at this, but I am learning. Oh wait, a knowledgeable guy that came by who said the Double Eagles were only dollars that yellowed with age, made my day. He said they were actually lead painted yellow to look old and all had only one eagle on them instead of two. He felt sorry for me and offered to take all 53 from me for $73, which works out to $1.37 apiece. So I guess I made out like a bandit, all things considered.

Respectfully, you're taking quite a leap with that optimistic prediction. It's debatable it's worth anything at all if someone accepts it. If not, it may have value if you come up with a witty back-story, otherwise it's not worth one red cent.

Just your bad luck... Danny Downer here, early on a New York morning! It beggars the imagine to even suggest your grandfather who passed in 1980 had anything to do with what was found in your granny's garage almost FORTY YEARS later. Try asking your kid brother what he was doing during those long nites he spent tinkering with things back in the garage -- and whether he had ever found that Creature from the Black Lagoon he lost a few years back.

When all is said and done, is it, or isn't it a DODO? THAT'S WHAT ENQUIRING MINDS WANT T KNOW.

"Does it have copper bullion value? Yup!